Politics, religion and transmission preference
10-01-2015, 03:33 PM
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Politics, religion and transmission preference
No, this isn't yet another MT vs PDK thread.
It just occurs to me that it's best to treat the topic like politics and religion are treated. But unlike those topics, this one is likely to have a finite period of relevance. In the meantime, I, for one, intend to embrace coexistence and respect for other people's choices and preferences.
Peace.
It just occurs to me that it's best to treat the topic like politics and religion are treated. But unlike those topics, this one is likely to have a finite period of relevance. In the meantime, I, for one, intend to embrace coexistence and respect for other people's choices and preferences.
Peace.
10-01-2015, 04:40 PM
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I personally don't care what transmission you like to use.
What bothers me about the topic is the trolls on either side that are unable to understand that enjoyment of an automobile's transmission is a subjective thing. What someone enjoys is their choice and spouting how much you enjoy your choice isn't going to make them enjoy it nor will it change their mind. While you're entitled to spout your opinion it only leads to derailed threads and negative emotions.
So as far as the topic of transmission choice goes, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it.
What bothers me about the topic is the trolls on either side that are unable to understand that enjoyment of an automobile's transmission is a subjective thing. What someone enjoys is their choice and spouting how much you enjoy your choice isn't going to make them enjoy it nor will it change their mind. While you're entitled to spout your opinion it only leads to derailed threads and negative emotions.
So as far as the topic of transmission choice goes, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it.
10-01-2015, 04:42 PM
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How about we not tie our identities to cars? Be objective and respect each others opinion? Like true gentleman. Then we can discuss and enjoy ourselves, perhaps learn something from each other rather than getting offended.
Some like PDK some like MT, so what? As long as there is a choice we are all happy. I routinely get spanked at the track by 991 GT3s in my 997.1 GT3. But once we get out of the cars and talk to each other, it is clear who is performance oriented and who is not.
There is demand for MT Porsche track cars - see the 997 GT3 prices after the PDK only GT3 announcement. But clearly there is demand for the 991 PDK GT3. Two camps. Two different types of people. No right camp nor wrong camp.
Some like PDK some like MT, so what? As long as there is a choice we are all happy. I routinely get spanked at the track by 991 GT3s in my 997.1 GT3. But once we get out of the cars and talk to each other, it is clear who is performance oriented and who is not.
There is demand for MT Porsche track cars - see the 997 GT3 prices after the PDK only GT3 announcement. But clearly there is demand for the 991 PDK GT3. Two camps. Two different types of people. No right camp nor wrong camp.
10-01-2015, 05:04 PM
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Great point, JD. Coexistence is a mind-set that should be adopted in every culture. There would be no such thing as WAR if the concept of coexistence was alive-and-well.
I was a PDK guy for 15 months. I enjoyed the fact it gave my multi-operated tortured back and legs some rest. However, it also lulled me into a mind-numbing state since I was not challenged. I could not tell I was driving a Porsche; my problem. I CURED my problem (and it was my problem alone) by selling the 2013 PDK and ordering a MT GTS. I have NO value judgments to make about people who prefer PDK. I respect the sophistication that they appreciate. AND, it is sophistication!
My brother does not respect the fact that I like mustard and onions on hotdogs and he likes ketchup. So much for filial piety. It is a good thing he dislikes Porsches. It keeps us communicative.
I was a PDK guy for 15 months. I enjoyed the fact it gave my multi-operated tortured back and legs some rest. However, it also lulled me into a mind-numbing state since I was not challenged. I could not tell I was driving a Porsche; my problem. I CURED my problem (and it was my problem alone) by selling the 2013 PDK and ordering a MT GTS. I have NO value judgments to make about people who prefer PDK. I respect the sophistication that they appreciate. AND, it is sophistication!
My brother does not respect the fact that I like mustard and onions on hotdogs and he likes ketchup. So much for filial piety. It is a good thing he dislikes Porsches. It keeps us communicative.
10-01-2015, 05:18 PM
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JD - just because you hit the bee hive with a nerf bat, doesn't mean the bees won't get pissed.
And by "bees" I mean the MT guys who fervently believe any Porsche owner with a PDK is a wuss (or worse) and can't wait to say so. It's Neanderthal and tiring, but now that you've broached the subject, stand by...
And by "bees" I mean the MT guys who fervently believe any Porsche owner with a PDK is a wuss (or worse) and can't wait to say so. It's Neanderthal and tiring, but now that you've broached the subject, stand by...
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10-01-2015, 05:31 PM
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There's way too much reasonable discourse in this thread thus far. Imagine that allowing, people to enjoy their car as they see fit. Next we'll be locking arms and singing Kumbayah!
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10-01-2015, 05:53 PM
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10-01-2015, 06:06 PM
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The zealots who argue that one is 'better' than the other, particularly when better to them ignores pure performance factors, are tiresome. Porsche makes two awesome gearboxes for the 991.
10-01-2015, 06:14 PM
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10-01-2015, 06:24 PM
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No, this isn't yet another MT vs PDK thread.
It just occurs to me that it's best to treat the topic like politics and religion are treated. But unlike those topics, this one is likely to have a finite period of relevance. In the meantime, I, for one, intend to embrace coexistence and respect for other people's choices and preferences.
Peace.
It just occurs to me that it's best to treat the topic like politics and religion are treated. But unlike those topics, this one is likely to have a finite period of relevance. In the meantime, I, for one, intend to embrace coexistence and respect for other people's choices and preferences.
Peace.
We are obviously very lucky folks to have had the experience to drive our Porsches (and other makes I am sure). Enjoy the experience!
10-01-2015, 06:29 PM
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What'd they say recently, 7-8 more years in the new cars minimum? By the time it's no longer possible to find a new or lightly used car with a full three pedal manual transmission, we'll all be either in the rest home or dead. I wouldn't worry about it.
10-01-2015, 06:36 PM
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10-02-2015, 12:00 AM
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No, this isn't yet another MT vs PDK thread.
It just occurs to me that it's best to treat the topic like politics and religion are treated. But unlike those topics, this one is likely to have a finite period of relevance. In the meantime, I, for one, intend to embrace coexistence and respect for other people's choices and preferences.
Peace.
It just occurs to me that it's best to treat the topic like politics and religion are treated. But unlike those topics, this one is likely to have a finite period of relevance. In the meantime, I, for one, intend to embrace coexistence and respect for other people's choices and preferences.
Peace.
Cayman S and 60th GTS CC....PDK
911 SC and GT3.....Manual
Best of both worlds!