Help me choose my first P car 991 S or GTS
07-17-2015, 04:12 PM
#17
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Thank you for most of the intelligent responses. I am still interested in getting opinions of someone who has gone from a 991 S to a GTS. I think also about resale value. I think the GTS manual will hold better value in the future than the 991 S. Decisions!
07-17-2015, 04:20 PM
#18
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Honestly, if price had been important to me I'd have been fine with the 2S. In fact, my dealer didn't even have a GTS to drive when I made my purchase. I drove a 2S with SPASM and a 2S with SPASM and PDCC, decided I liked SPASM better. I chose the GTS because I knew I liked the exclusivity of having the "top of the line" Carrera, I liked the look of the haunches, I liked the wheels, and I like saying that it has 430hp (same as my brother's C6). But honestly, the power is not noticeably better in my book, and if I'd had to pay full price for the powerkit motor (as in an S + Powerkit) I'd have passed.
07-17-2015, 04:32 PM
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If you can really get either for $110k, I'd just consider how important the other options are to you. I considered the GTS, but every time I configured it, I couldn't keep the price under $125k with the options I wanted and I don't care for the wheels offered, so I was looking at another chunk of change and hassle to swap wheels. And out here, dealers wouldn't deal at all on the GTS, while they would give a bit of a discount on the C2S, so that was another $4k+ difference.
I think you'll probably be happy either way. Honestly, I think one of the big considerations should be which transmission you prefer.
Also, if you're not dead set on a specific color or planning to order specific options, and you intend to keep the car, you might consider shopping nationally for a leftover car. There are some great deals to be had that way.
I think you'll probably be happy either way. Honestly, I think one of the big considerations should be which transmission you prefer.
Also, if you're not dead set on a specific color or planning to order specific options, and you intend to keep the car, you might consider shopping nationally for a leftover car. There are some great deals to be had that way.
This is my GTS Build:
MSRP $114200 Bose Audio $1802 Park Assist w/Camera $1645 PASM $890 Multifunction Steering wheel $165 Destination $995 TOTAL $ 120,015
I can get it for $110,400.
As far as the transmission I can go either way I believe the 991S is better with the PDK as oppose the GTS I would do manual.
07-17-2015, 05:50 PM
#20
Drifting
I'm curious, and God knows, not trying to start another PDK vs. Manual slugfest. But why would you think the S was better with PDK and the GTS better with 7M? I've puzzled on that one and can't figure it out. Or is it just that you want to close the pricing gap between the two by equipping the GTS with the free tranny?
07-17-2015, 06:16 PM
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I'm curious, and God knows, not trying to start another PDK vs. Manual slugfest. But why would you think the S was better with PDK and the GTS better with 7M? I've puzzled on that one and can't figure it out. Or is it just that you want to close the pricing gap between the two by equipping the GTS with the free tranny?
07-17-2015, 06:21 PM
#23
Couldn't agree more. AM Vantage V8 for about the top of your budget (stretched to maybe 120k well-equipped, about like a 991S). Beautiful, V-8ey, sounds good, cabin is snug but wonderfully built, won't see very many of them compared to the much more pedestrian 991.
That said, I didn't even consider one when replacing my 911 Turbo this year; love the way they look, but I don't think it's nearly the car dynamically that the 911 is, or even your M4. But if I lived in Miami, meh. I wouldn't care about a car's dynamics. I'd be looking for other qualities.
That said, I didn't even consider one when replacing my 911 Turbo this year; love the way they look, but I don't think it's nearly the car dynamically that the 911 is, or even your M4. But if I lived in Miami, meh. I wouldn't care about a car's dynamics. I'd be looking for other qualities.
07-17-2015, 06:50 PM
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The points about the importance of matching the vehicle and engine dynamics with the types of driving you will be doing are all valid. I'm in an area with flat, boring roads but I still love my 991S PDK and don't feel it is lacking on the low end. In the spirit of rennlist , let me goad you in to purchasing a P-car. $110K for an ordered $120K MSRP GTS is a good deal. Go for it.
07-17-2015, 07:02 PM
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The points about the importance of matching the vehicle and engine dynamics with the types of driving you will be doing are all valid. I'm in an area with flat, boring roads but I still love my 991S PDK and don't feel it is lacking on the low end. In the spirit of rennlist , let me goad you in to purchasing a P-car. $110K for an ordered $120K MSRP GTS is a good deal. Go for it.
Not long ago I went to test a Cayman S because I love the mid engine dynamics. I found it underpowered and I could not see myself owning a Cayman. I know that I will be happy with either car. Just trying to make the right decision owning a car that I will love 8 or 10 years from now.
07-17-2015, 07:08 PM
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Yes, but have you driven an Aston Martin, either the V8 or V12? Take a ride in one, they're Big Fun when you don't have hilly curves to carve up. I'm on my 5th Porsche so you know I like 'em, but I used to live in South Florida and along Miami Beach I'd do an Aston every time over a Carrera.
Another example would be the Jaguar F-TYPE R.
07-17-2015, 07:37 PM
#27
Let's not kid ourselves -- neither the 991 S or the 991 GTS is going to do well from a resale perspective. These are mass produced cars that anyone can walk into a dealer and buy right now. They aren't limited, they aren't special hard to get models that you needed to be on a list last year....
If I were you I'd go for a new frills GTS and get the biggest discount you can get. Options have very little return when it comes to resale value. The only ones that have ever seemed to be worth it are upgrading to a different seat -- and I don't mean adding the slow-moving electric system that's available in the 991. 4-7% discount sounds doable from another thread so if you can do 112 + ttl you can probably order a GTS.
If I were you I'd go for a new frills GTS and get the biggest discount you can get. Options have very little return when it comes to resale value. The only ones that have ever seemed to be worth it are upgrading to a different seat -- and I don't mean adding the slow-moving electric system that's available in the 991. 4-7% discount sounds doable from another thread so if you can do 112 + ttl you can probably order a GTS.
07-17-2015, 07:43 PM
#28
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Help me choose my first P car 991 S or GTS
2015 GTS. Asking 115K with under 2K miles. 133K sticker price.
Look at pre-owned cars. Save $$$ used GTS's are popping up, and yes they are depreciating just like the rest.
Can't go wrong.
http://www.parkplace.com/all-invento...he-911-mp11232
Look at pre-owned cars. Save $$$ used GTS's are popping up, and yes they are depreciating just like the rest.
Can't go wrong.
http://www.parkplace.com/all-invento...he-911-mp11232
07-17-2015, 07:59 PM
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Let's not kid ourselves -- neither the 991 S or the 991 GTS is going to do well from a resale perspective. These are mass produced cars that anyone can walk into a dealer and buy right now. They aren't limited, they aren't special hard to get models that you needed to be on a list last year....
If I were you I'd go for a new frills GTS and get the biggest discount you can get. Options have very little return when it comes to resale value. The only ones that have ever seemed to be worth it are upgrading to a different seat -- and I don't mean adding the slow-moving electric system that's available in the 991. 4-7% discount sounds doable from another thread so if you can do 112 + ttl you can probably order a GTS.
If I were you I'd go for a new frills GTS and get the biggest discount you can get. Options have very little return when it comes to resale value. The only ones that have ever seemed to be worth it are upgrading to a different seat -- and I don't mean adding the slow-moving electric system that's available in the 991. 4-7% discount sounds doable from another thread so if you can do 112 + ttl you can probably order a GTS.
I can get 8% off MSRP right now on a ordered GTS.