Worst $24k ever spent / 991 lease 2yr review
#32
Drifting
Wow.
No strong feelings on this string, fortunately.
The guy drove a 991. He's had other Porsches. He hates the 991. To each his own.
Cut him some slack, f'r God's sake---he didn't yank on your mom's mustache, he just said he's unimpressed with the stretch version of the 911. Let it go.
No strong feelings on this string, fortunately.
The guy drove a 991. He's had other Porsches. He hates the 991. To each his own.
Cut him some slack, f'r God's sake---he didn't yank on your mom's mustache, he just said he's unimpressed with the stretch version of the 911. Let it go.
It's one thing to say: "well, I didn't like it and wanted more power", but to complain that the base has no *****, and it was the most waste of money ever is just laughable. Here is a tip, don't buy it then, or get the S version.
#34
#35
No *****? Buy a Corvette. With 2 pedals.
Some enthusiasts would rather drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. I'm renting a 197hp Ford Fiesta ST for 2 years and ringing it out is a blast. Will it keep up with my wife's station wagon in a straight line? No. A 350hp 911 has more power than any drive would need... assuming the driver knows how to find it.
Truthfully, I find the 7MT in our Targa S much preferable to the 915 5-speed in our '83, which is, uh, "charming" at its best.
The 7MT is an unqualified delight. Sorry you couldn't figure out how to enjoy yours.
Some enthusiasts would rather drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. I'm renting a 197hp Ford Fiesta ST for 2 years and ringing it out is a blast. Will it keep up with my wife's station wagon in a straight line? No. A 350hp 911 has more power than any drive would need... assuming the driver knows how to find it.
Truthfully, I find the 7MT in our Targa S much preferable to the 915 5-speed in our '83, which is, uh, "charming" at its best.
The 7MT is an unqualified delight. Sorry you couldn't figure out how to enjoy yours.
#36
Burning Brakes
Another post I don't understand. You do realize this is a forum, right?
The OP disliked aspects of the 991. He clearly can afford, and has had, more than one vehicle. Personally, I suspect it's a great car, but with quirks/defects that one ought not to have in a car with the price tag and profit margin of the Porsche. Just like EVERY 911 variant since the late 90's.
For those who, apparently regard the 991 as a worship object, immune to the critiques of those who believe a $100,000 car should be a $100,000 car: Try objectivity, some time. You may find it intellectually refreshing. And apparently, a completely new experience.
#37
Not that difficult to understand. There is 'discussion', and there is simply flaming. The poster after mine suggested finding another string, apparently since I disagree with some of the more critical posts. But then, he's from the SF area, where intolerance to other views is the accepted local mantra. No surprise, there.
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#38
Now back on topic, something that actually makes me laugh is when I hear anyone say the 991 is the worst 911 ever made and/or it's just become a soft GT car. Those statements are so far from the truth it's comical, and I don't say that as an owner, I say that based upon the numbers and all the professional reviews out there over the past 3+ years. Almost all of them rave about the 991 as a massive improvement over the 997 in every area except the rawness of it.
In the 991, Porsche succeeded in making a much better all around usable car that also goes faster around the racetrack than any 911 before it. So tell me again how much it sucks? How the soft grand touring ****box is capable, on similar tires, of lapping a track as fast as the brand new GT4? And continues to beat the competition in just about every comparison test, even with the 2.5 year old model? Such a piece of crap.
In the 991, Porsche succeeded in making a much better all around usable car that also goes faster around the racetrack than any 911 before it. So tell me again how much it sucks? How the soft grand touring ****box is capable, on similar tires, of lapping a track as fast as the brand new GT4? And continues to beat the competition in just about every comparison test, even with the 2.5 year old model? Such a piece of crap.
#39
Instructor
Agreed
Wow.
No strong feelings on this string, fortunately.
The guy drove a 991. He's had other Porsches. He hates the 991. To each his own.
Cut him some slack, f'r God's sake---he didn't yank on your mom's mustache, he just said he's unimpressed with the stretch version of the 911. Let it go.
No strong feelings on this string, fortunately.
The guy drove a 991. He's had other Porsches. He hates the 991. To each his own.
Cut him some slack, f'r God's sake---he didn't yank on your mom's mustache, he just said he's unimpressed with the stretch version of the 911. Let it go.
#40
Race Director
Worst $24k ever spent / 991 lease 2yr review
This whole post is ridiculous!
Something about bitching about the worst $24K ever spent on something with no *****??
Something costing 100K should have *****?
Now someone brings up San Francisco?? Geez, for 100K you can get *****, and even a third one attached in SF if you're needing them.
People, you have choices where to spend your money. Do your homework first and move on if not happy. There's always another car out there for you.
I love it when some past Porsche owners start bashing the car when they post their "moved on to another brand/car" thread. If to somehow justify their decision. Bizarre.
Something about bitching about the worst $24K ever spent on something with no *****??
Something costing 100K should have *****?
Now someone brings up San Francisco?? Geez, for 100K you can get *****, and even a third one attached in SF if you're needing them.
People, you have choices where to spend your money. Do your homework first and move on if not happy. There's always another car out there for you.
I love it when some past Porsche owners start bashing the car when they post their "moved on to another brand/car" thread. If to somehow justify their decision. Bizarre.
#42
Drifting
Not that difficult to understand. There is 'discussion', and there is simply flaming. The poster after mine suggested finding another string, apparently since I disagree with some of the more critical posts. But then, he's from the SF area, where intolerance to other views is the accepted local mantra. No surprise, there.
The OP disliked aspects of the 991. He clearly can afford, and has had, more than one vehicle. Personally, I suspect it's a great car, but with quirks/defects that one ought not to have in a car with the price tag and profit margin of the Porsche. Just like EVERY 911 variant since the late 90's.
For those who, apparently regard the 991 as a worship object, immune to the critiques of those who believe a $100,000 car should be a $100,000 car: Try objectivity, some time. You may find it intellectually refreshing. And apparently, a completely new experience.
The OP disliked aspects of the 991. He clearly can afford, and has had, more than one vehicle. Personally, I suspect it's a great car, but with quirks/defects that one ought not to have in a car with the price tag and profit margin of the Porsche. Just like EVERY 911 variant since the late 90's.
For those who, apparently regard the 991 as a worship object, immune to the critiques of those who believe a $100,000 car should be a $100,000 car: Try objectivity, some time. You may find it intellectually refreshing. And apparently, a completely new experience.
And if you think that was flaming holy **** are you in for a surprise here at rennlist LOL!
#43
#45
Burning Brakes
Seriously. 56 posts in and he's already a moderator.
But no, let's not debate the merits of the vehicle: Instead, let's all pile on the OP and question his common sense, asserting that he did not take a test drive, or that he expects too much from a car that costs 2x the average family income, or that he simply doesn't comprehend the flawless crystalline purity of the 991 (Allah's Praise be unto it).
That seems to be an excellent stimulus for conversation.
I think you're right, Archimedes---this isn't the string for me. But not for the reasons you might think.
Oh, and not to worry: my bowels are fine. Thanks for your concern.