991.2 Engine
03-31-2015, 10:01 AM
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To bad they didn't publish the weight too. 400 hp from the entry level 911 is great if weight can be kept under 3350 lbs. Most likely the Achilles heel of the new lineup.
03-31-2015, 10:59 AM
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I am curious about torque numbers
If torque is what you feel , then both the current 3.4 and 3.8 cars in 911 make their power and torque in higher rpms
S is relatively troquier than non S but not a big difference
I think anything about 375 lb ft of toqrue is readily noticeable bur then is more torque at lower rpms more enjoyable ?
If torque is what you feel , then both the current 3.4 and 3.8 cars in 911 make their power and torque in higher rpms
S is relatively troquier than non S but not a big difference
I think anything about 375 lb ft of toqrue is readily noticeable bur then is more torque at lower rpms more enjoyable ?
03-31-2015, 11:17 AM
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its the age old track vs street compromise ....a lunging fat tq peak at lower rpm feels great on the boulevard or freeway gran prix , but a linear power delivery to a high redline allows one significantly more control of a car's cornering attitude via the throttle peddle's much wider range of movement ,esp for amateur weekend track rats where cornering is the fun part , not WOT after straightening out as that is the moment you are not even aware of as you are already staring at and mentally planning the approach for the next turn ahead
03-31-2015, 03:24 PM
#6
its the age old track vs street compromise ....a lunging fat tq peak at lower rpm feels great on the boulevard or freeway gran prix , but a linear power delivery to a high redline allows one significantly more control of a car's cornering attitude via the throttle pedals much wider range of movement ,esp for amateur weekend track rats where cornering is the fun part , not WOT after straightening out as that is the moment you are not even aware of as you are already staring at and mentally planning the approach for the next turn ahead
fwiw if the 991 is 400 then it sounds like the 991S will be about 450, which if I recall exactly matches one of the early predictions- which nobody believed because nobody thought Porsche would ever bump a 911 so much at once. Personally, I think Porsche will work their engineering magic on throttle and turbo mapping and come up with something equivalent to what they did with electric steering- not the same exactly, but so good there's hardly anything left for anyone to complain about.
03-31-2015, 03:49 PM
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its the age old track vs street compromise ....a lunging fat tq peak at lower rpm feels great on the boulevard or freeway gran prix , but a linear power delivery to a high redline allows one significantly more control of a car's cornering attitude via the throttle peddle's much wider range of movement ,esp for amateur weekend track rats where cornering is the fun part , not WOT after straightening out as that is the moment you are not even aware of as you are already staring at and mentally planning the approach for the next turn ahead
Agreed! Good post.
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03-31-2015, 06:20 PM
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Confession - for the past several years I've been reading stories here of dreaded turbo lag and all the alleged atrocities that come with boosted engines. Heck, maybe I'd even come to believe it based on my previous experience behind the wheel of turbo cars. So....
Last weekend I finally got behind the wheel of a MY14 Turbo S. Guess what I didn't feel? I decided then that maybe, just maybe - well engineered turbo design has come a bit further than any old Merkur XR4Ti that is being used as one's basis of comparison. Compared to the car in my garage, the TS didn't show even a hint of hesitation. Chalk that up to my turbo-rage blindness, or perhaps the fact that we're dealing with a pretty stout power plant before throwing and handful of parts at its exhaust/intake system. And perhaps the biggest shocker - when I grabbed some high rev downshifts or blipped the throttle before placing into gear, I heard a very satisfying snap/crackle/pop that we all have come to love in our NA cars. Surely not from a boosted car? Say it ain't so!
End game for me was this. Be mindful of what you perceive as truth until you can fact check it yourself. If Porsche sends us a 2017 that is even close to what I experienced Saturday, then sign me up.
Last weekend I finally got behind the wheel of a MY14 Turbo S. Guess what I didn't feel? I decided then that maybe, just maybe - well engineered turbo design has come a bit further than any old Merkur XR4Ti that is being used as one's basis of comparison. Compared to the car in my garage, the TS didn't show even a hint of hesitation. Chalk that up to my turbo-rage blindness, or perhaps the fact that we're dealing with a pretty stout power plant before throwing and handful of parts at its exhaust/intake system. And perhaps the biggest shocker - when I grabbed some high rev downshifts or blipped the throttle before placing into gear, I heard a very satisfying snap/crackle/pop that we all have come to love in our NA cars. Surely not from a boosted car? Say it ain't so!
End game for me was this. Be mindful of what you perceive as truth until you can fact check it yourself. If Porsche sends us a 2017 that is even close to what I experienced Saturday, then sign me up.
03-31-2015, 08:43 PM
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04-01-2015, 01:37 PM
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Confession - for the past several years I've been reading stories here of dreaded turbo lag and all the alleged atrocities that come with boosted engines. Heck, maybe I'd even come to believe it based on my previous experience behind the wheel of turbo cars. So....
Last weekend I finally got behind the wheel of a MY14 Turbo S. Guess what I didn't feel? I decided then that maybe, just maybe - well engineered turbo design has come a bit further than any old Merkur XR4Ti that is being used as one's basis of comparison. Compared to the car in my garage, the TS didn't show even a hint of hesitation. Chalk that up to my turbo-rage blindness, or perhaps the fact that we're dealing with a pretty stout power plant before throwing and handful of parts at its exhaust/intake system. And perhaps the biggest shocker - when I grabbed some high rev downshifts or blipped the throttle before placing into gear, I heard a very satisfying snap/crackle/pop that we all have come to love in our NA cars. Surely not from a boosted car? Say it ain't so!
End game for me was this. Be mindful of what you perceive as truth until you can fact check it yourself. If Porsche sends us a 2017 that is even close to what I experienced Saturday, then sign me up.
Last weekend I finally got behind the wheel of a MY14 Turbo S. Guess what I didn't feel? I decided then that maybe, just maybe - well engineered turbo design has come a bit further than any old Merkur XR4Ti that is being used as one's basis of comparison. Compared to the car in my garage, the TS didn't show even a hint of hesitation. Chalk that up to my turbo-rage blindness, or perhaps the fact that we're dealing with a pretty stout power plant before throwing and handful of parts at its exhaust/intake system. And perhaps the biggest shocker - when I grabbed some high rev downshifts or blipped the throttle before placing into gear, I heard a very satisfying snap/crackle/pop that we all have come to love in our NA cars. Surely not from a boosted car? Say it ain't so!
End game for me was this. Be mindful of what you perceive as truth until you can fact check it yourself. If Porsche sends us a 2017 that is even close to what I experienced Saturday, then sign me up.
They will be quite different.