Would you/do you regret having NO sunroof in your 991 ?
#121
#122
For years I thought a sunroof was only a good thing. Then on my S4 I found I hardly used it for the 5 years I had it. On the 991, I really dislike how the sunroof looks on any color but black (others could have the opposite opinion, it's subjective). But since personally I don't like the look of it I didn't order it.
Haven't regretted it once. Very glad actually as I think the car looks best with body color up above, and I didn't have to pay for it. (and don't have to clean/maintain it, worry about leaks or rattles, etc)
Haven't regretted it once. Very glad actually as I think the car looks best with body color up above, and I didn't have to pay for it. (and don't have to clean/maintain it, worry about leaks or rattles, etc)
#123
On my daily driver, I smoke cigars on long hauls - which is a lot. Tilt the back of the sunroof up and it sucks all the smoke out instantly. You cannot smell the cigar smoke in my car. This is likely not a consideration for most but just sharing my thoughts. Even if I wasn't a cigar person - I like having the fresh air.
#124
I'm a cab guy so....
On my daily driver, I smoke cigars on long hauls - which is a lot. Tilt the back of the sunroof up and it sucks all the smoke out instantly. You cannot smell the cigar smoke in my car. This is likely not a consideration for most but just sharing my thoughts. Even if I wasn't a cigar person - I like having the fresh air.
If you're tracking (outside of the best option to get another, dedicated car) then maybe but unless someone is paying you for lap times, I'd bet a lot of money you couldn't feel the weight. The weight discussion taking place online is as productive as debating 2 different cars with theoretical planned mods on different drag strips under different conditions.
Like a sunroof? Get a sunroof.
On my daily driver, I smoke cigars on long hauls - which is a lot. Tilt the back of the sunroof up and it sucks all the smoke out instantly. You cannot smell the cigar smoke in my car. This is likely not a consideration for most but just sharing my thoughts. Even if I wasn't a cigar person - I like having the fresh air.
If you're tracking (outside of the best option to get another, dedicated car) then maybe but unless someone is paying you for lap times, I'd bet a lot of money you couldn't feel the weight. The weight discussion taking place online is as productive as debating 2 different cars with theoretical planned mods on different drag strips under different conditions.
Like a sunroof? Get a sunroof.
#125
I love fresh air and sun, and I love having a sunroof and use it all the time. 100% of the time I have a choice, I will get the sunroof. The cars I've owned that don't have it, I always wish they did. I never noticed any weight or rigidity or other benefits from not having a sunroof. I had one M3 with a sunroof and exactly the same model with a carbon fiber roof, no difference that any normal person could tell.
#126
This season I'm trying dropping a few pounds myself to overcome this obstacle.
#127
I agree with Tangerine regarding the black dot that shows with a glass sunroof. Ugly other than on a black car. And when the sunroof is open it looks like someone left a package on the roof of the car. And then there it the rattles and Wright issue of a sunroof. Not a fan as you can tell.
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Mine is a 997.2, but I'd still miss the sunroof. I've never been a fan of soft tops, I'd prefer a hard top like the Benz SLK series or Ferrari California. Regardless, you have an awesome car on the way. You said your car is PTS? What color? Look forward to seeing pics of it....T
#131
I wish I didn't have a sunroof, as I could use all the headroom I can get (thought thankfully, 911 sunroofs don't take up TOO much headroom otherwise I could only fit in a non-sunroof car), and I like the less weight and extra rigidity.
Though, at the same time, I use my sunroof all the time and love having it, so I'm fine being "stuck" with it, even though ideally I'd rather not have it. I have the steel sunroof, which although lacks the benefit of light coming in from up top with the roof closed, has the benefit of less weight than a glass roof. Also, I love the Aqua Blue so much, I want as much of it on the car as possible, so would rather not have a roof that's comprised of glass and black paint.
Though, at the same time, I use my sunroof all the time and love having it, so I'm fine being "stuck" with it, even though ideally I'd rather not have it. I have the steel sunroof, which although lacks the benefit of light coming in from up top with the roof closed, has the benefit of less weight than a glass roof. Also, I love the Aqua Blue so much, I want as much of it on the car as possible, so would rather not have a roof that's comprised of glass and black paint.
#133
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In the 2017 track season I really felt that I was handicapped by the sunroof weight (in addition to the loss of rigidity); my coach and I agreed w the telemetry results showing that sunroof was indeed slowing me down.
This season I'm trying dropping a few pounds myself to overcome this obstacle.
This season I'm trying dropping a few pounds myself to overcome this obstacle.
I've decided not to roll my car over on track since the glass is so dangerous vs a regular hard top.
However more importantly Wifey likes the sunroof and mine doesn't rattle.
#134
Three Wheelin'
In the 2017 track season I really felt that I was handicapped by the sunroof weight (in addition to the loss of rigidity); my coach and I agreed w the telemetry results showing that sunroof was indeed slowing me down.
This season I'm trying dropping a few pounds myself to overcome this obstacle.
This season I'm trying dropping a few pounds myself to overcome this obstacle.
#135
Had one on my 550i and Panamera - never used either. GTS order is a coupe without, like the clean look of the roof in the color of the car. I’m also tall, so need extra headroom as well.
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