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I wonder why so cheap? Porsche St. Louis had almost an identical build, 11k miles, CPO 2012, and sold it for $73,900 in 4 days. Local dealer had a similar car, 14k miles, sold at $75k in a week. Somebody grab it before they fix the price!
Yes it is local. The car is located near San Francisco.
I can wait a ltlle bit. No rush.
Btw, I couldnt find similar car(2014 911 with PSE and chrono) under $80K.
If you have any suggestions I can have a look.
Thanks
Price seems fair, not great. Private party? The car I am buying is from a dealer, 11k miles, one owner 2013 loaded Aerokit Cup S, $129k build, for $77,900. It even comes with factory car cover and battery tender. Seems like that car being $77,900, then your 2014 w/7k more miles is not worth more than $80k. Seems like after 2-3 years, these cars lose around $4-6k a year in value, and another $2500-3000 for every 10,000 miles on the odometer (for similar option builds). The steepest yearly depreciation is up front of course: the difference between a loaded 2012 S w/10k miles and a loaded 2013 w/10k miles is around $5k, probably about $6-7k up to a 2014 loaded S w/10k miles.
That one for $62.5k seems way under market price...either a great deal or they will probaby change the price. Sometimes I see cars like that get listed and the next day they went up $5-10k.
Pretty much fits my 991 search wish-list except for full leather (SPASM, PDK, SC, SE), one of my preferred colors, and the year/price-point I was targeting... Going to call them tomorrow and hopefully make this one mine. Hopefully I'm not fighting anyone else here for it! :-)
I've never purchased a Porsche CPO car before... What are the thoughts on needing an independent PPI on a 9K mile CPO car from a Porsche dealer?
Sleep well at night and spend a few hundred for a PPI. Good Luck
A lot of their used 991's I've seen are PCNA drivers school/press cars. I think when opening, they couldn't get enough used cars. Prices have all been on the high side.
STG - I have seen a few references to dealers selling Porsche Drivers School (or equivalent) cars. This is something I would like to watch out for, but I am not sure how. Does the dealer have to disclose that the car was used in a drivers school? If not, how do you tell?
STG - I have seen a few references to dealers selling Porsche Drivers School (or equivalent) cars. This is something I would like to watch out for, but I am not sure how. Does the dealer have to disclose that the car was used in a drivers school? If not, how do you tell?
I've seen such cars in the past, and you have to look at the CarFax for ownership history....
STG - I have seen a few references to dealers selling Porsche Drivers School (or equivalent) cars. This is something I would like to watch out for, but I am not sure how. Does the dealer have to disclose that the car was used in a drivers school? If not, how do you tell?
Great question!
As noted by Plenum. The CarFax gives clues. Never says anything specific though. I have learned to spot them. Lack of ownership history pretty much. They usually pop up with like 5-7K miles or so on their first entry. PCNA auctions them off directly to Porsche dealers. A lot of dealers will stay away from buying these cars. These guys in West Broward are hungry for inventory and will buy anything. These are all examples.
STG - I have seen a few references to dealers selling Porsche Drivers School (or equivalent) cars. This is something I would like to watch out for, but I am not sure how. Does the dealer have to disclose that the car was used in a drivers school? If not, how do you tell?
The Carfax history will say something like "Vehicle originally titled as part of commercial fleet" or similar.
Additionally the title location will usually be in the vicinity of the corresponding driver's school. For example, Porsche Driver's School is located in Atlanta, so the Carfax will probably say that the car was titled and registered at a DMV in Georgia.
Over the years I have seen a number of Carfaxes for Corvettes used at the Ron Fellows Driving School in Las Vegas and they follow this pattern.
As noted by Plenum. The CarFax gives clues. Never says anything specific though. I have learned to spot them. Lack of ownership history pretty much. They usually pop up with like 5-7K miles or so on their first entry. PCNA auctions them off directly to Porsche dealers. A lot of dealers will stay away from buying these cars. These guys in West Broward are hungry for inventory and will buy anything. These are all examples.
Having worked at one of the original carmax locations in Atlanta in the mids 90's; I can tell you 99% of the employees knew nothing about cars. It was like a Best Buy but for cars.
That's OK. I don't require a car salesperson to know about the product; I know more than they do 95% of the time anyway, even at the dealers. I don't say that to feel good about myself - it's just a reflection of the fact that cars are a love for me and a job for them. I want a car salesman to facilitate test drives on cars I am interested in buying (in return I agree not to abuse their time by driving cars for fun) and to streamline the transaction when I do buy. That's all I want.
I am in sales myself, and I realize that people in the car sales profession may be put off by my attitude, and I certainly understand that I remove profit levers by minimizing my interaction with them. Cars, though, are an objectively understood purchase if not a commodity. The information is out there. I don't need it from a guy trying to make a sale right this minute. Selling cars is not a collaborative process in 2016. It's just not.
Carmax offers a very compelling proposition. If a guy is serious about buying a car like a Porsche, a ~$350 transfer fee and a 5-day no questions return policy is very close to risk free, compared to flying two time zones away to look at a Porsche, then buying it out of state and getting it home. I would definitely give Carmax a try if I found a car I liked in their inventory.
That one for $62.5k seems way under market price...either a great deal or they will probaby change the price. Sometimes I see cars like that get listed and the next day they went up $5-10k.
No kidding....dealers don't honor pricing that is a mistake typically. They don't give away $10 grand willingly. Gotta find some Ford dealer that took a mis-priced trade (like the one that was selling a 9k mile, $124k build 997 GTS 4 in as-new condition for $70k because they had it listed as a C2S)
06-08-2016, 03:03 AM
