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20K miles, MSRP of $105K. I'm sure what's keeping buyers away is the high price and lack of CPO.
I guess what I'm asking is, if the car was taken care of by it's two previous owners, should a lack of CPO be concerning?
gizzard, i been looking at that car too. Talked to salesman a few times. No cpo makes it hard for me to bite on it. Also look at the badging on the rear. Its crooked looking. I dunno. I actually called the dealership that serviced and sold it 6 months ago and the shop said they wouldnt tell me about the car due to privacy issues. Seems like for not much more money i can find something with several years of warranty. Other than that i think the spec is perfect. Bare bones and fast and red!
How important is CPO? I'm looking at a 2014 Carrera S with only one option (Sport Techno wheels) for $74K. The price is high (IMO) and I'm not quite willing to pull the trigger on a non-CPO car.
A better aftermarket warranty can always be purchased in place of a CPO: I wouldn't let that deter you. There is no golden halo around a CPO: it is simply a warranty and can be purchased at any time. Figure a CPO car is $2500 to $3000 more than a non-CPO car.
As far as the price goes: it seems high. If you get a good price on it, and need a warranty later, buy one. Many here buy Fidelity and can point you to the right sales guy.
So a local dealer has a launch vehicle 2017 991.2 C2S with 37K miles, black on black. No CPO, from what I can gather a lease return with follow-up auction; seems to have been sitting around for the last year, as it put about 3 miles on since 2018/06. Meaning the PO must have put 37K miles on the car between 2016/02 and 2018/06.
It has the three options that are relevant to me with PDK, PSE, SC.
How bad of an idea is this? What’s a good price? Miles aren’t exactly low; CPO would be kind of redundant as the OEM warranty should still be active? Large service is coming up and should be budgeted for.
How important is CPO? I'm looking at a 2014 Carrera S with only one option (Sport Techno wheels) for $74K. The price is high (IMO) and I'm not quite willing to pull the trigger on a non-CPO car.
You might be like me and LOVE sport technos and go gaga willing to overlook other options when you see those wheels lol
seriously though from what I hear many say the 991.1 reliability is very good and since aftermarket warranties are available it never hurts to make an aggressive offer and see what happens. PPI of course
20K miles, MSRP of $105K. I'm sure what's keeping buyers away is the high price and lack of CPO.
I guess what I'm asking is, if the car was taken care of by it's two previous owners, should a lack of CPO be concerning?
Yeah that price is high for sure. I wouldnt worry about CPO if the car is in good shape. Plus a bare bones car has even less stuff that can break (no active engine mounts, no pdcc etc)
That's exactly what I was thinking. I love the Sport Techno wheels and I want a blank slate to start with as I would likely modify the car's suspension and body. Thanks for all the advice re: aftermarket warranty. I'll be patient and see if the price drops or hope something else pops up. My backup plan is a 718 GT4…
Originally Posted by chekraze
You might be like me and LOVE sport technos and go gaga willing to overlook other options when you see those wheels lol
seriously though from what I hear many say the 991.1 reliability is very good and since aftermarket warranties are available it never hurts to make an aggressive offer and see what happens. PPI of course
Originally Posted by natman316
Yeah that price is high for sure. I wouldnt worry about CPO if the car is in good shape. Plus a bare bones car has even less stuff that can break (no active engine mounts, no pdcc etc)
So a local dealer has a launch vehicle 2017 991.2 C2S with 37K miles, black on black. No CPO, from what I can gather a lease return with follow-up auction; seems to have been sitting around for the last year, as it put about 3 miles on since 2018/06. Meaning the PO must have put 37K miles on the car between 2016/02 and 2018/06.
It has the three options that are relevant to me with PDK, PSE, SC.
How bad of an idea is this? What’s a good price? Miles aren’t exactly low; CPO would be kind of redundant as the OEM warranty should still be active? Large service is coming up and should be budgeted for.
What exactly makes it a "bad" idea? It has likely seen a lot of highway miles: the DME readout will give you a lot of information about operating hours, which you can use to deduce the typical operating environment.
I purchased a 991 with 70,000 miles and drove it for a year: it was rock solid every step of the way. In doing the math, the most "expensive" miles are always the ones under 20,000. Service costs plus the lower depreciation on a higher mileage 911 usually comes out in favor of the higher mile car. When you buy a 10k mile 991, the next 10k miles could cost you $8k grand, not including the dealer sales margin. The 10k miles between 40k-50k are around $3,000, and expected maintenance is nowhere close to the 5 grand balance.
They can probably add a CPO for you for $3k. If the car is sold to you however, it should be up to date on maintenance, CPO or no CPO, unless it is really cheap. Or, buy a better aftermarket warranty. From what I read here, the CPO is overrated when better warranty programs exist.
"The car is 100% original" after he lists all of the changes they've made to it and the salvage title/damage repair lol. What an idiot. Wouldn't get within sniffing distance of that one just based on the description in the ad.