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CarFax shows accident, AutoCheck on Porsche pre-owned site does not. Nice huh?
I'll use a freebie autocheck for an initial screening, or for the full VIN trick, but never would actually purchase a used Porsche without running a full, recent CarFax. Not saying that CarFax always gets it right, but they definitely have more info than the other vin history services as well as by far the most detailed for service history...
... for me the ultimate PCA pie in the sky asking price was the $450,000 price for a 2013 S with 5XXX miles. Claims to be a club coupe limited to 13 cars worldwide (maybe because of the PTS color?) Is Brewster Green that exclusive?
One of my retired Chicagoland lunch buddies is presently offering one of these for sale, a Brewster Green '13 Club Coupe, for somebody he knows, on consignment. It's my buddy's retirement job/passion, at 78. He's been a Porsche guy since the 60s. The one he is advertising is one of the "13" 2013 Club Coupes, but it is a manual tranny, one of only two worldwide. The other manual is a right hand drive Club Coupe in Asia. This one has 6800 miles and the only manual that is left hand drive in the world. It is collector perfect, and last I heard was asking $350. I saw it at a car show and it appeared to be flawless.
Original buyers of these 13 2013 Club Coupes had to be Porsche Club members, worldwide, and had to win a Porsche lottery to get the right to be able to buy one of these at $168k here in the USA (my recollection). They certainly are as rare as hens' teeth!!
One of my retired Chicagoland lunch buddies is presently offering one of these for sale, a Brewster Green '13 Club Coupe, for somebody he knows, on consignment. It's my buddy's retirement job/passion, at 78. He's been a Porsche guy since the 60s. The one he is advertising is one of the "13" 2013 Club Coupes, but it is a manual tranny, one of only two worldwide. The other manual is a right hand drive Club Coupe in Asia. This one has 6800 miles and the only manual that is left hand drive in the world. It is collector perfect, and last I heard was asking $350. I saw it at a car show and it appeared to be flawless.
Original buyers of these 13 2013 Club Coupes had to be Porsche Club members, worldwide, and had to win a Porsche lottery to get the right to be able to buy one of these at $168k here in the USA (my recollection). They certainly are as rare as hens' teeth!!
I'm on his email list. Always has some cool cars on consignment.
How long does it often take for an accident report to show up on a Carfax (after incident is reported to say an insurance company or taken to a body shop)?
How long does it often take for an accident report to show up on a Carfax (after incident is reported to say an insurance company or taken to a body shop)?
It varies by region (some agencies and shops don't report at all) and keep in mind, many accidents are never reported to Carfax. Carfax is a decent tool, but it is worth about what you pay for it.
How long does it often take for an accident report to show up on a Carfax (after incident is reported to say an insurance company or taken to a body shop)?
It happens as soon as the official police report is completed, typically within 2-4 weeks. But this could vary by jurisdiction. That is my understanding...
Insurance companies only report stolen or totaled cars. Police does not report routine accident reports, and repair/body shops as I understand it report once a claim is submitted for payment or paid out of pocket.
this is from CarFax site:
CARFAX® receives data from more than 100,000 different sources including every U.S. and Canadian provincial motor vehicle agency plus many police and fire departments, collision repair facilities, auto auctions, and more.
The CARFAX database is the most comprehensive vehicle history database in North America, containing more than 17.5 billion records. Records included in each CARFAX Report reveal important information about a car’s history, such as an odometer reading, existence of a branded title such as a salvage/junk title, or past registration as a fleet vehicle. A CARFAX Report may not include every event in a vehicle’s history, but will include the data that is reported to CARFAX for a specific vehicle identification number (VIN).
Before you buy a used car, we recommend that you get a CARFAX Report, take a test drive, and have the vehicle inspected by a qualified mechanic.
The following list represents some of the many types of data sources that currently report information to CARFAX.Data sourceTypes of data provided to CARFAXHow the data can help you make a
better used car buying decisionU.S. motor vehicle agencies
Branded titles, including salvage/junk, flood and more
Truth in Mileage Act (TIMA) certified odometer readings
Manufacturer buybacks or lemon titles
Registration records, including original vehicle use and city/state where the vehicle was registered
Accident damage reports
Stolen vehicles
Ownership transfers
Lien information
Identify problem titles
Uncover potential odometer fraud
Learn estimated number of owners
Learn where the vehicle has been registered
Identify how the vehicle may have been used (rental, taxi,lease, etc.)
Uncover past accidents
Canadian provincial motor vehicle agencies
Vehicle registrations
Problem brands
Odometer readings
Ownership transfers
Find cross-border activity
Identify problem brands
Learn estimated number of owners
Auto auctions
Odometer readings
Uncover potential odometer fraud
Collision repair facilities
Accident indicators, including:
Structural/frame damage
Collision repair history
Uncover past accidents that resulted in repairs
Service/ maintenance facilities
Service or maintenance records including dates and services offered
Learn maintenance history
See where the car has been serviced
Insurance companies
Total loss vehicles
Stolen vehicles
Identify accidents which may not have resulted in salvage/junk titles
Salvage auctions
Salvaged vehicles
Vehicles sold at auction
Identify salvaged cars that may not have been assigned salvage titles by motor vehicle agencies
Automotive recyclers
Recycled parts that were requested for a repair
Uncover major maintenance repairs
Identify damage events that may not have been reported to law enforcement agencies or insurance companies
Rental/fleet vehicle companies
Total loss and damage history
Maintenance/service history
Learn damage history
Learn repair/maintenance history
State inspection stations
Odometer readings
Location of inspection site
Pass/fail safety and emissions inspection status
Inspection details
Uncover potential odometer fraud
Identify vehicle driving patterns
Identify compliance problems
Extended warranty companies
Major repair and maintenance history
Learn repair/maintenance history
Fire departments
Fire damage reports from across the U.S.
Identify vehicles damaged in fire incidents
Manufacturers
Open recalls
Certified pre-owned (CPO) vehicles
Service and maintenance history
Courtesy buybacks
Identify recalls that need to be completed
Identify vehicles inspected and certified by manufacturers
Learn maintenance history
Law enforcement agencies
Stolen vehicle records
Police department accident reports (various state and local jurisdictions)
In a previous life I was director of data acquisition for the southeast for Carfax. We developed a free app for police departments to run VINS that would provide their accident data immediately. We also purchased and collected data from a gazillion other sources including insurance companies, Lexus and others. Many smaller police departments are still using paper for reports that get sent to their respective states (which they also buy). Those reports can be delayed. Carfax does not by any means have all accidents immediatly. It is data and all data available regarding 6 figure decisions is pertinent.
Originally Posted by PCA1983
It happens as soon as the official police report is completed, typically within 2-4 weeks. But this could vary by jurisdiction. That is my understanding...
Not sure if its a great price but very cool build! Manual, Carbon Ceramics, PDCC, full leather, Burmester, LED headlights, Targa GTS. Basically all the awesome options:
MSRP was 175k and asking is 138k. https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...2383/overview/
Not sure if its a great price but very cool build! Manual, Carbon Ceramics, PDCC, full leather, Burmester, LED headlights, Targa GTS. Basically all the awesome options:
MSRP was 175k and asking is 138k. https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...2383/overview/
Nice looking Targa. I think $138K is going to be hard to get. Has 13K miles and a very high MSRP which depreciates a lot. More like a $125K car in my opinion. Even then, not like it's an easy sale.
Car is almost 4 model years old. 2020 992's are due out next year.
10-06-2018, 06:34 PM
