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Old 02-02-2017, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by good hands
Going to look at this today. Not an S but looks like a nice daily. Hope to get him down to 60k.Opinions?

http://www.intersportautosales.com/2...4/Details.aspx
Originally Posted by The Fat Kid
Base, 30k miles, $111k MSRP, and no warranty? I would not bid more than $55k.

A quick search on the locator, and I found a similar CPO for $59.9k: http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-custo...a0c1df&url=usa

https://admin.porschedealer.com/repo...CA2A94CS140225
Originally Posted by TerryC4S
If you can get it for 62k or lower, it's a great deal.
Originally Posted by STG
Would not pay over $60K with that mileage and no CPO. That's being very generous to the seller too. Nice looking car though.

I'd personally be happy with $57-59K
I'm looking at a similar car, 2013 base with $96k MSRP, 20k miles, private party asking $62,500, well maintained but no warranty. What are your thoughts on what would be a good or fair deal?
Old 02-02-2017, 02:15 PM
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Best thread on the forum! Thanks and congrats STG!
Old 02-02-2017, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Hurricane
It is amazing that with very few exceptions (a few options offered, maybe software in PCM), the 2012.5's are pretty much identical to the 2016's. That's partly why I don't hesitate in suggesting people consider well-maintained/good condition 2012.5's.
Agree, but at least two changes I'm aware of...

- Early 991's with manual transmission and sport chrono did not have auto-blip rev matching, later ones did.

- Early 991's without leather interior and in hot climates had potential door warping issues, resolved in later models.

Other than offered colors and some option changes (like available paddle shift steering wheel) what other notable changes occurred from 2012.5 through 2016?
Old 02-02-2017, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AWay
Here's my contribution to this thread: http://www.porscheofcoloradosprings....1-4s-c-546.htm
'13 4S, GREAT options, clean carfax, CPO, and really good price I thought.
If I hadn't already bought a 991 I would be all over this one.
Great build!

The Colorado Springs dealership often has nice cars for sale, though there prices are typically a bit heavy. This one seems to be a bit more of a 'hot' price at $80K. Compare to the Carmax 2014 C4S posted a few days ago.. the Carmax car was a year newer and $1,500 cheaper, but .the CoSprings car is a $15K higher original build and comes with a CPO!.. Hands down the better deal.

I would like to hear the story, however, of how it had four owners in four years and 14K miles? Looks like first owner was Porsche for 700 miles and a few months, likely a demo/loaner/press car?




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Old 02-02-2017, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pfbz
Great build!

The Colorado Springs dealership often has nice cars for sale, though there prices are typically a bit heavy. This one seems to be a bit more of a 'hot' price at $80K. Compare to the Carmax 2014 C4S posted a few days ago.. the Carmax car was a year newer and $1,500 cheaper, but .the CoSprings car is a $15K higher original build and comes with a CPO!.. Hands down the better deal.
$600 for dealer's handling fee? Handling what?
Old 02-02-2017, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Hurricane
My 2013 (June '13) was built 20 months after my 2012.5 (Nov '11) was, so I suppose they could be a month apart or up to more than a year difference between model years. I hope I am doing the math on that correctly LOL...
My 2012.5 was built in April 2012 so there can be quite a spread.
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Originally Posted by pfbz
Great build!

The Colorado Springs dealership often has nice cars for sale, though there prices are typically a bit heavy. This one seems to be a bit more of a 'hot' price at $80K. Compare to the Carmax 2014 C4S posted a few days ago.. the Carmax car was a year newer and $1,500 cheaper, but .the CoSprings car is a $15K higher original build and comes with a CPO!.. Hands down the better deal.

I would like to hear the story, however, of how it had four owners in four years and 14K miles? Looks like first owner was Porsche for 700 miles and a few months, likely a demo/loaner/press car?
It appears to have winter tires on it as well.
Old 02-02-2017, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by visitador
$600 for dealer's handling fee? Handling what?

Extortion. I think all Penske dealers do that too along with some others.
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The Colorado Springs dealer also has this 2013 C4S... Interior isn't quite as nice as their other white C4s, but Aerokit and PCCB's!
http://www.porscheofcoloradosprings....e-911-c-10.htm

Aerokit, PCCB, SC, SE, PDCC, SPASM for $82.5K. $147K original sticker.

Old 02-02-2017, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pfbz
Agree, but at least two changes I'm aware of...

- Early 991's with manual transmission and sport chrono did not have auto-blip rev matching, later ones did.

- Early 991's without leather interior and in hot climates had potential door warping issues, resolved in later models.

Other than offered colors and some option changes (like available paddle shift steering wheel) what other notable changes occurred from 2012.5 through 2016?
Well, early 911's had COV issues, for one thing... Also resolved with later models. (Also an issue most likely addressed under warranty.)

Off of the top of my head, 2013 added these options:

Jukebox
Aerokit Cup Spoiler Option
X51 Option
And of course the C4 & C4S came out in 2013.

I am sure there are many more, though, that I am forgetting.

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Old 02-02-2017, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by visitador
$600 for dealer's handling fee? Handling what?
Pretty much every car dealer in Colorado, new and used, has a "delivery and handling" fee. aka additional dealer profit. $500/$600 is typical. Some $800+. Very occasionally you will see a small used car dealer with a minimum or no fee, but extremely rarely.

They recently changed Colorado law so any advertised car price MUST include the d&h (craigslist, newspaper ads, ebay, cars.com, etc.), so if the Porsche Colorado Springs advertises that car, it will be inclusive of d&h.
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Originally Posted by pfbz
The Colorado Springs dealer also has this 2013 C4S... Interior isn't quite as nice as their other white C4s, but Aerokit and PCCB's!
http://www.porscheofcoloradosprings....e-911-c-10.htm

Aerokit, PCCB, SC, SE, PDCC, SPASM for $82.5K. $147K original sticker.

NICE!!!!!

Someone needs to jump on this one!!!
Old 02-02-2017, 03:27 PM
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I like. Thank goodness for PSP

Price is fair with 26K miles. CPO too.

The plate looks taped on. Hopefully not drilled.

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Old 02-02-2017, 03:30 PM
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What's the deal with these wheels on the first Co Springs C4S?

They are aftermarket OZ's with winter tires, but are they just fake centerlocks with some sort of hubcap that covers the bolts?

I don't think 2013 C4S's came with centerlocks standard, and I don't see it on the options sheet. If real centerlocks, a conversion?
Old 02-02-2017, 03:31 PM
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^^^ how funny. Just caps I'm sure with the poseur centerlock look.


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