Are Ceramic brakes worth it?
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Ok so Im still looking at various options for my GTS before I am unable to make any further changes and now have one final question that I need help with.....
Are ceramic brakes worth the 6k (£) ?
Im assuming that at this cost the difference is huge?
Thanks in advance chaps....
Are ceramic brakes worth the 6k (£) ?
Im assuming that at this cost the difference is huge?
Thanks in advance chaps....
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Depends how you plan to use the car. And your aversion to brake dust. ![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Do you enjoy washing your wheels? If you don't, then yes they are worth it. I have never had them, but I hate the brake dust on the steel brakes.
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I have a set on my 991TS. They work extremely well and should last many years. With that said, we replaced them the 997 cup given price/performance ratio. It may help with esale to right buyer. 991 chassis is incredible. Enjoy.
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They are worth it if you will appreciate what they do for you and won't mind (or can avoid) their drawbacks. PCCB's won't stop the car faster, but they require less effort making it SEEM like they do. For some people that's enough right there. They are lighter, which some people will notice the reduced unsprung weight while others will not. For me this is enough right there but again a lot of people never will even notice it. What everyone does notice of course is brake dust and caliper rust- which you won't have with PCCB's.
Wear is a big question. Porsche initially called them life of car. With normal street use they probably are. But there's so much range, with some people racking up scores of track days, Porsche had to quit making longevity claims. They probably are life of car with normal street use. Its just hard to say for sure.
Drawbacks are fragility and replacement cost. Get clumsy changing wheels and if you hit one hard enough to damage it at all you're looking at the option cost to replace the rotors on that axle. They are sensitive to brake pad wear, so forget about running the pads down they should be replaced at 50-75% wear. A lot of this depends on your driving. All street driving, no matter how fast, you'll be fine. Very much track use though and you better replace the pads at 50% and even then plan on replacing rotors eventually. This is why so many track guys complain and switch to big reds. For them its a big factor. For you? Maybe not so much?
So bottom line if you'll be using your car on the street, maybe a dozen track days on street tires over your time with the car, will enjoy brakes that feel more powerful, clean attractive wheels and rotors, and maybe might even notice the improved ride then they are well worth the extra money. Think hard though if you plan on using it on the track very much.
Wear is a big question. Porsche initially called them life of car. With normal street use they probably are. But there's so much range, with some people racking up scores of track days, Porsche had to quit making longevity claims. They probably are life of car with normal street use. Its just hard to say for sure.
Drawbacks are fragility and replacement cost. Get clumsy changing wheels and if you hit one hard enough to damage it at all you're looking at the option cost to replace the rotors on that axle. They are sensitive to brake pad wear, so forget about running the pads down they should be replaced at 50-75% wear. A lot of this depends on your driving. All street driving, no matter how fast, you'll be fine. Very much track use though and you better replace the pads at 50% and even then plan on replacing rotors eventually. This is why so many track guys complain and switch to big reds. For them its a big factor. For you? Maybe not so much?
So bottom line if you'll be using your car on the street, maybe a dozen track days on street tires over your time with the car, will enjoy brakes that feel more powerful, clean attractive wheels and rotors, and maybe might even notice the improved ride then they are well worth the extra money. Think hard though if you plan on using it on the track very much.
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I've said this before in related threads, but this decision should not be made based on caliper color. It should be based on performance needs per one's intended driving. You can always have the calipers painted or powder coated. And from what I have read, the cost of doing so is not substantial.
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I had them on my 996TT. You also seem to get improved steering feel due to less unsprung mass. I had major issues with noise and squeals on mine, but I think Porsche offered a different pad formula on later generation PCCBs that are quieter.
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If PCCBs were a clear-cut, all instances, order-of magnitude improvement over the standard iron brakes, then they might be worth a few thousand dollars more. However, $8520 is just way too much for an option with the potential to cause as many problems as it solves. On a GT3, I get it...it's a club racer and the hassle and expense might be worth it. On a road car? I wouldn't do it, but that's just me.