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Old 11-29-2014 | 07:53 AM
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Had them on two GT3's and ordered them on my GTS Cab ... nuff said.
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Originally Posted by 1analguy
If PCCBs were a clear-cut, all instances, order-of magnitude improvement over the standard iron brakes, then they might be worth a few thousand dollars more. However, $8520 is just way too much for an option with the potential to cause as many problems as it solves. On a GT3, I get it...it's a club racer and the hassle and expense might be worth it. On a road car? I wouldn't do it, but that's just me.
I've heard this position before. Alternatively, there are some who believe the ceramics make more sense for road cars as the wear/tear and replacement costs for track cars suggest steel is the better way to go. Like the OP, I'm torn. I have always gone steel but the ceramic guys nearly always report being happy, which is saying something given the extra 9k cost.
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A couple of older but still applicable articles:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/01/au...AKES.html?_r=0

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...ic-brakes.html
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thanks.....much appreciated.
Old 11-29-2014 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pap2828
thanks.....much appreciated.
You're welcome. Your thread got me thinking and reading about this issue again.

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While not necessarily relevant to the 991, some data points in the November 2014 Panorama Magazine:

https://www.pca.org/panorama/edition...-november-2014
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Originally Posted by david
While not necessarily relevant to the 991, some data points in the November 2014 Panorama Magazine:

https://www.pca.org/panorama/edition...-november-2014
Thanks, David. I'm a PCA member, but for some reason my Login won't work, so I was not able to access the article. I'm traveling, but will look for the November issue when I get home.
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My Porsche salesman told me that in his experience the #1 reason why people buy the ceramics is to avoid brake dust, followed by the performance gain, followed by the caliper color. I'm not saying that's gospel, but passing it along.
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Originally Posted by Drew_K
My Porsche salesman told me that in his experience the #1 reason why people buy the ceramics is to avoid brake dust, followed by the performance gain, followed by the caliper color. I'm not saying that's gospel, but passing it along.
Sounds about right!
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Originally Posted by STG991
Sounds about right!

thoughts on brake dust issue with the black GTS wheels???
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Originally Posted by pap2828
thoughts on brake dust issue with the black GTS wheels???
Silver and Black wheels are the WORST for showing brake dust and the first drive rusty rotor dust after a wash (especially on black).

I've done quite a few Porsche black wheels. Very high maintenance. Love them, but they show everything.
Old 12-01-2014 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sportscentury
I've heard this position before. Alternatively, there are some who believe the ceramics make more sense for road cars as the wear/tear and replacement costs for track cars suggest steel is the better way to go. Like the OP, I'm torn. I have always gone steel but the ceramic guys nearly always report being happy, which is saying something given the extra 9k cost.
They make a lot of sense on a road car. PCCB's are perfectly suited to the guy who will be doing almost all street driving, will not be pushing the car all that hard or all that often on the track, can change pads on schedule, and enjoys all the other benefits of PCCB. Autocross? Doesn't matter. Autox doesn't heat things up enough to matter either way. Cross em all you want. For this guy PCCB's will be the bomb, and this group covers a LOT of people, which is why so many who have them are happy.

PCCB's also make a lot of sense for the guy who has to win, has spent so much money on everything else it now makes sense to throw money at PCCB too- and still has money left to throw at PCCB's! In other words multi-millionaires and well-funded racing teams. Which is why so many hard core track guys complain (they can't afford to play with the big boys) and why so many professional teams run them.

I've been reading PCCB news and comments for years. When you hear someone complaining, almost always they are in the no-mans land between these two groups. If you're in there too, don't get them. Otherwise, odds are you'll love 'em.
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Originally Posted by STG991
Silver and Black wheels are the WORST for showing brake dust and the first drive rusty rotor dust after a wash (especially on black).

I've done quite a few Porsche black wheels. Very high maintenance. Love them, but they show everything.
IIRC the silver & black Fuchs's are low maint ? T
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Had them on a couple cars in the past. Would never order them myself. If someone gave me a set, I would take them, although I'd probably sell them. Pre-owned, they are a negative for me. Much like center locking wheels.
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Originally Posted by 77tony
IIRC the silver & black Fuchs's are low maint ? T
That's a unique wheel. The finish and ease to clean. It's low maintenance.

The GTS wheel is flat black which isn't as bad as gloss black that I had. Gloss black is high maintenance.


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