Need help. I traded my lovely 72 for a 993 C2S. Both great cars but I'm having the same problem with my 993 I had with my '72 -- I don't drive it often enough for fear of adding miles and hurting its value. I really just want to drive...

I have an opportunity to trade my 993 for 3,000 mile 2012 C2S. Thoughts?? Cross-posting in 993 forum for feedback. Thank you!

 

You traded a '72 for a 993 ?!? Some of us who own modern cars are actually going back from where you came, and instead of parking those cars, we drive them. Life is short to worry about car values.

The 911 progression made sense for a while but after the G-series, cars became heavier and more insulating. That trend took off with the water-cooled area and it took off with a strong upwards inflection with the 991's very long WB, very wide front track and softer suspension. All that progression brought along excellent performance, for sure, but the original 911 feel is gone.

I see keeping a modern car while enjoying a classic, but, selling a classic to move on to a 991? Not if one is a 911 fan.

 

Modern certainly has it's perks.

 

What do you want to do with the car? Cars & coffee? Autocross? DE? Rally? Date night? Road trip? Rub with diapers and stare at it? Concours?

Need more info.

But, keep the 993 and start driving it. You might just get Ebola tomorrow.

 

drive as much as i can w/o worrying about something busting

 

First of all dont worry about the 991 thing. Some people are saying its not a real 911because it nannies and things like the Sound symposer , the tube that allows some engine sounds to come into the cockpit. OH!! the Purists cried!!! Its as bad as BMW MAKING ELECTRONIC soundtracks for the M5 because it was too quiet. Well its not anything like that. In fact its no different than the much wanted MOTOR SOUND package we all coveted on our 993's! Holes and spaces to make better sound allowed to get to the pilot. The 991 is just as much 911 as anything else.

Milage. I call this the Ferrari disease. If you look at older Ferraris (typically the ones that have to have the motor out to do a timing belt change, 360, 355 etc) they are all for sale around the 2,900 mile mark, or the 13500 mark. Because they are worried either that they have to pay for the belt service or that it drops value around the same milage mark. I have noticed that the newer ones still do this but not so bad. 430s and newer.

But I have also been paying attention to the 993 and the air cooled craze. I am happy to report, that I see little of the Ferrari disease affecting Porsche owners. I dont see any magic number that says OMG!!! Its going to drop $10,000 tomorrow if I drive pass 35,000 miles.

I have been watching the 993 sales and the 993 TT sales and as long as the maintenance is up to date and the example is well cared for the 75,000 example is just as good as the 50,000 mile example. There is a minor premium for extremely low mile examples.

So I say drive your 993 and enjoy it! You arent going to damage it by driving it, unless you have a 10,000 example and you plan or driving it 150,000 in the next 3 years. If you have a 35,000 mile car its not going to lose more than 10% by you driving it 10,000 miles a year, and the way they are appreciating, you might not lose anything.
I might be off on some of the details but over all you get my meaning.

 

'Rub with diapers'? Lex, where have you been for the past 10/15 years? Nobody uses diapers their cars as we used-to-do ages ago? In fact, modern diapers will leave nasty & deep swirl marks all over your clear coat! Get with the program, bro!

Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel

PS The truthful answer to the question 'what do you want to do with the car' is date night. We can all hope & dream a little, no?


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"Rub with diapers and stare at it" came after "date night". He may not have been talking about the car.

 

Not sure what the 993 scene in states is like but here in UK there has been a distinct cooling off on the "last air cooled 911" in both standard, turbo and turbo S varieties. 964 C2 is now priced higher than C2 993 of similar mileage - something about engines not as reliable over 50,000 miles. Interestingly the G series is now making a run with prices getting close to 964.

If you like the classics why not make a detour for the retro 991-50th, although I'd imagine it would be a fair bit more than the C2S - who knows in the long run it might even end up as an astute buy - that way you can have your cake and eat it too!

 

I never think about my cars this way........keep them in a garage with low miles for fear of a drop in resale value..................NO. I bought the car and will enjoy it to, why should I keep it in prestine low mileage condition so that the other/new owner enjoys it........

Drive you cars bike boats.............etc whatever it is, life is to short. No need to worry about value.

 

Thanks all!

 

After having owned a couple of 993's and after being without a Porsche for awhile, I thought I wanted to go back to a 993. I looked at a few examples and then I made the mistake of looking at a new 991 at a dealer. I heard that the 991's were too big and drove like a Buick. Well, I was surprised to learn that the 991 is not too big and it still drives like a Porsche. It even has the heavy clutch pedal with the awkward long travel. Long story short: the 991 has a lot of character. The 993 has even more character but as with everything, there are trade offs.

The 991 is a modern car with up to date climate control and comfort items. I had a second car when I had my 993. With the 991, I ditched my second car and daily drive the 991. I have put 10k miles on a new 991 within 6 months. The car do as much as any other modern can do except carry a lot of stuff inside. That is why us daily drivers purchase the factory roof rack.

Bottom line: the 993 is nicer looking car. However, I bet you will drive the 991 more often than your 993
because it is so much more user friendly.

 

993's were great, they still are fun to drive. The 991 is just more fun.