Just got my first 911 -- a total snore
#76
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You have owned Porsches for 10 years yet this is your first 911. Please tell us what Porsches you did own since the 991S is such a bore. I am on my 7th new Porsche since 1983 and this 991S is the best I have had. But again what do I know after 31 years?(That goes back to the time when you were still with your dad and had not met your mother yet) Please enlighten me and the membership.
Please -- with all those years under your belt I'm sure you'd be able to come up with a better joke than what I heard back in grade school.
Last edited by destaccado; 07-25-2014 at 12:00 AM.
#77
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...quite frankly -- you missed the entire point. Who cares if the 991 pulls and pulls through 170 if it's boring to drive around town. I already said it was fun to drive on the autobahn.
Do I think a STI is a better car than a 991? No; but it's a much better sports car for the price it's at.
#78
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I'm sticking with what I said before. The 991 is boring to drive slow -- a boulevard cruiser -- a problem previous generations of 911 that I've driven don't have.
#79
What is the point of this thread? The OP has decided that the 991 is not much of a sports car for the price. Ok, he is entitled to his opinion. I like my 991 but I am not going to promote it as a raw challenging sports car when driven legally on the road. In this regard, I agree with the OP.
If the OP is attempting to make some members here defensive about their 991 purchase, he may have succeeded to a certain extent. However, this same sort of discussion happens when Leica owners are asked to justify paying over $5k when a $1.5k Sony camera appears to take better photos. People buy Porsches(and Leicas) because they like them for a whole bunch of reasons. Some of the reasons, such as build quality and history, have nothing to do with perceived performance.
If the OP is attempting to make some members here defensive about their 991 purchase, he may have succeeded to a certain extent. However, this same sort of discussion happens when Leica owners are asked to justify paying over $5k when a $1.5k Sony camera appears to take better photos. People buy Porsches(and Leicas) because they like them for a whole bunch of reasons. Some of the reasons, such as build quality and history, have nothing to do with perceived performance.
#80
Fart can exhaust? The STI sounds a lot like my father's 944 Turbo actually. Not very surprising considering it's the same displacement turbocharged Boxer motor. Great cars actually - blast to drive - and lots of guys on this board own them. It's unfortunate the interiors are so cheap but for 35k new you can't have everything. I would say it's definitely more fun to drive than the 991 on American roads minus the noise.
...quite frankly -- you missed the entire point. Who cares if the 991 pulls and pulls through 170 if it's boring to drive around town. I already said it was fun to drive on the autobahn.
Do I think a STI is a better car than a 991? No; but it's a much better sports car for the price it's at.
...quite frankly -- you missed the entire point. Who cares if the 991 pulls and pulls through 170 if it's boring to drive around town. I already said it was fun to drive on the autobahn.
Do I think a STI is a better car than a 991? No; but it's a much better sports car for the price it's at.
Bull**** I'm younger than you owned more cars than you one of them being an STI. Of those cars the STI was one of the least involving I've ever owned.
#81
Fart can exhaust? The STI sounds a lot like my father's 944 Turbo actually. Not very surprising considering it's the same displacement turbocharged Boxer motor. Great cars actually - blast to drive - and lots of guys on this board own them. It's unfortunate the interiors are so cheap but for 35k new you can't have everything. I would say it's definitely more fun to drive than the 991 on American roads minus the noise.
...quite frankly -- you missed the entire point. Who cares if the 991 pulls and pulls through 170 if it's boring to drive around town. I already said it was fun to drive on the autobahn.
Do I think a STI is a better car than a 991? No; but it's a much better sports car for the price it's at.
...quite frankly -- you missed the entire point. Who cares if the 991 pulls and pulls through 170 if it's boring to drive around town. I already said it was fun to drive on the autobahn.
Do I think a STI is a better car than a 991? No; but it's a much better sports car for the price it's at.
The 944T has a boxer engine???? I don't think so.
#84
The beauty of the 991 is that you can drive it in traffic comfortably and just lope around without a fuss, and moments later find a open mountain pass and let her rip. I don't want to gallop and sputter around town to draw attention to myself.
I get it that you want to stir the pot by calling the 991 a old fuddy duddies car for the old at heart. At some point it does appear you are not just seeking attention anymore and have transitioned into a need for abuse.
I get it that you want to stir the pot by calling the 991 a old fuddy duddies car for the old at heart. At some point it does appear you are not just seeking attention anymore and have transitioned into a need for abuse.
#85
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My dick is bigger than yours and my girlfriend is hotter. See how this works? Good grief.
#86
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The beauty of the 991 is that you can drive it in traffic comfortably and just lope around without a fuss, and moments later find a open mountain pass and let her rip. I don't want to gallop and sputter around town to draw attention to myself.
I get it that you want to stir the pot by calling the 991 a old fuddy duddies car for the old at heart. At some point it does appear you are not just seeking attention anymore and have transitioned into a need for abuse.
I get it that you want to stir the pot by calling the 991 a old fuddy duddies car for the old at heart. At some point it does appear you are not just seeking attention anymore and have transitioned into a need for abuse.
"calling the 991 a old fuddy duddies car for the old at heart" - hardly. I'm sure it's the best daily driver 911 that's ever been made. Unfortunately, it's hardly the previous generation 911's and in my view has finally moved away from sports car to GT. Nothing wrong with wanting to own such a car.
I'm not surprised a bunch of guys who spent 100k on their car are vigorously defending it. I simply think the car isn't for me and next time I'm home I'll be putting it up for sale. The market already demonstrates this version of 911 is less valuable than many of the others for some of the exact reasons I'm giving so the "abuse" from a group of guys defending their investment hardly bothers me.
Last edited by destaccado; 07-25-2014 at 02:05 AM.
#87
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What is the point of this thread? The OP has decided that the 991 is not much of a sports car for the price. Ok, he is entitled to his opinion. I like my 991 but I am not going to promote it as a raw challenging sports car when driven legally on the road. In this regard, I agree with the OP.
If the OP is attempting to make some members here defensive about their 991 purchase, he may have succeeded to a certain extent. However, this same sort of discussion happens when Leica owners are asked to justify paying over $5k when a $1.5k Sony camera appears to take better photos. People buy Porsches(and Leicas) because they like them for a whole bunch of reasons. Some of the reasons, such as build quality and history, have nothing to do with perceived performance.
If the OP is attempting to make some members here defensive about their 991 purchase, he may have succeeded to a certain extent. However, this same sort of discussion happens when Leica owners are asked to justify paying over $5k when a $1.5k Sony camera appears to take better photos. People buy Porsches(and Leicas) because they like them for a whole bunch of reasons. Some of the reasons, such as build quality and history, have nothing to do with perceived performance.
...but we already have 18 circle jerk threads here about how happy people are with their new 991 purchase and I'm genuinely happy for those individuals - my experience is simply different. No doubt what I'm saying is simply what a lot of guys holding onto their old Porsches and driving up the prices to obscene levels are thinking.
#89
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You must have a lot of time on your hands. Thanks for asking.
#90
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Compromising on your dream car is never a good idea as it can never meet your expectations, by the look of it even the 993 can't live up to that expectation otherwise you would have pulled the trigger after all that time.
I guess the search for you continues while we all have a huge smile on our face. Good luck and hope you get one of our smiles soon.
BTW yes I do have a lot of time, you should see some of my other posts!
I guess the search for you continues while we all have a huge smile on our face. Good luck and hope you get one of our smiles soon.
BTW yes I do have a lot of time, you should see some of my other posts!
Last edited by Mondrian; 07-25-2014 at 07:22 AM.