991 Vs 991S
07-16-2014 | 01:13 AM
#196
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From: S.E. Wisconsin, U.S.A.
Even though that car sounded remarkably like a Porsche (very silky), when it started bellowing like that, it was so embarrassing that I quit exercising it...and ultimately got bored with it as a result...
07-16-2014 | 09:15 AM
#198
Drifting
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Jeez...you make the standard S exhaust sound almost exactly like what I'm after (I'd really like it to be quiet all the time), and PSE sound like I should avoid it like the plague. If this is really true, then I'll stop searching for a car with PSE right away, and I can save even more money. Yes, I'm the oddball here in that I like all my cars as quiet as possible. Even with the quietest factory exhaust, I know I'll still be able to hear that sweet Porsche flat six sound...I just don't need everyone else to hear it as well. That way I can enjoy the car's performance more often...
07-16-2014 | 11:44 AM
#200
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Nope. Guy I got it from was replacing his with a PSE exhaust I believe.
07-16-2014 | 11:59 AM
#201
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Am I the only one that thinks it's crazy that Porsche essentially creates a "hierarchy" of cars within the 911 brand? Let's face it .... most people would be thrilled to drive ANY 911. It just comes down to what price point you feel comfortable with. For me a C2S coupe with a ton of options came out to only 10k more than a CPO base 911 so I decided to spend the extra money, while others may decide to opt for a cab for the same price. As long as you enjoy your car to the fullest extent that's all that matters.
07-16-2014 | 12:10 PM
#202
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Am I the only one that thinks it's crazy that Porsche essentially creates a "hierarchy" of cars within the 911 brand? Let's face it .... most people would be thrilled to drive ANY 911. It just comes down to what price point you feel comfortable with. For me a C2S coupe with a ton of options came out to only 10k more than a CPO base 911 so I decided to spend the extra money, while others may decide to opt for a cab for the same price. As long as you enjoy your car to the fullest extent that's all that matters.
Porsche didn't create a hierarchy, they simply offer different models for different purposes and uses (and yes, budgets) - we created the hierarchy.
07-16-2014 | 12:23 PM
#203
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Yep I agree with you Team Plutonium.... I see why they created the GT3 (for the track, but also an amazing road car), but why create a Turbo vs. Turbo S? I mean shouldn't they just create one turbo? Such questions vex the gods. 
07-16-2014 | 12:29 PM
#204
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To make gobs of money... which they do. Some folks are contend to just drive a 911 to show off... some need a turbo, and some need the most powerful (currently) 911 out there. We keep buying them, they keep making them. And although Porsche didn't create the circle-jerk hierarchy they are fully aware how retarded we are.
07-16-2014 | 05:12 PM
#206
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You are absolutely correct. No manufacturer abuses their clientele, like Porsche. They get us on the simplest of things like a colored centre cap on the wheels. Both caps sell for the same price in the parts dept. Who would think of charging $800.00 for different color thread on seats. I'm surprised the second key is not an option. I should be careful, I don't want to give them any ideas.
That being said, we keep coming back again and again. There is simply no one else who can build a 911. It's the Rolex of cars.
That being said, we keep coming back again and again. There is simply no one else who can build a 911. It's the Rolex of cars.
07-31-2014 | 04:36 PM
#207
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From: S.E. Wisconsin, U.S.A.
Ditto. This is why I ordered my car - almost everything on the lot has PSE, and to my mind (and ear) it's unnecessary and kind of silly, not to mention outrageously expensive. So I ordered a new 991S with no PSE, no sunroof and no Bose. I saved enough money that I paid only a little bit more than I would have buying a pre-owned with all of that crap on it. Plus I got it in the colors that I wanted that you would never see in dealer inventory. Linkie here.
08-01-2014 | 11:37 AM
#208
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From: Assen, The Netherlands
You are absolutely correct. No manufacturer abuses their clientele, like Porsche. They get us on the simplest of things like a colored centre cap on the wheels. Both caps sell for the same price in the parts dept. Who would think of charging $800.00 for different color thread on seats. I'm surprised the second key is not an option. I should be careful, I don't want to give them any ideas.
That being said, we keep coming back again and again. There is simply no one else who can build a 911. It's the Rolex of cars.
That being said, we keep coming back again and again. There is simply no one else who can build a 911. It's the Rolex of cars.
Porsche is expensive but not as expensive as say Ferrari is abusing their clientele
08-01-2014 | 11:47 AM
#209
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Porsche sure is a car manufacturer that has expensive options, however take a look at Ferrari when considering expensive options. The total Carbon Fibre options in the 458 Italia amount up to a staggering 20k USD. Not to mention that sport seats are optional in the 458 and are a whopping 5k USD. Colored callipers are 1.5k USD. Special paint jobs which are not in the standard pallet however not a custom color, 10k USD.
Porsche is expensive but not as expensive as say Ferrari is abusing their clientele
Porsche is expensive but not as expensive as say Ferrari is abusing their clientele
08-01-2014 | 12:00 PM
#210
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Fair point.
But let's not forget the La Ferrari. Reminds me of a note Jeremy Clarkson made on the F430 Coupe:
"F1 flappy gearbox, 4k GBP. That's a lot of money, but maybe you can bring it up by selling one of your legs since you won't need two when driving a Ferrari with a flappy-paddle-gearbox".
Enough about Ferrari's
But let's not forget the La Ferrari. Reminds me of a note Jeremy Clarkson made on the F430 Coupe:
"F1 flappy gearbox, 4k GBP. That's a lot of money, but maybe you can bring it up by selling one of your legs since you won't need two when driving a Ferrari with a flappy-paddle-gearbox".
Enough about Ferrari's