lol. I was making light of neanicu's use of the word throughout his post.

 

With PDK you pull on the downshift paddle 3 times and it goes from 5th to 2nd. Takes less than a second.

 

When I am cruising in 7th on the freeway, PDK will shift down to 3rd if I floor it.

Also, it will drop 2 gears it you just tap on the gas.

 

The 991 Porsche is a great 911! I love the looks,sound,technology and its versatility. I really do not have any complaints,but I guess the most important aspect in my way of thinking is the satisfaction it offers when driving what remains to this day-one of the best sportscars.
The transmission choice is a matter of preference and I do not want to waste energy trying to justify or influence one's opinion.
Drive what you please and never look back!
Even if the Manual transmission is old technology and won't be offered in the future,I'll have no regrets,it really won't influence my life to the point I have to " sharpen my knife " against people from the Internet. It's silly...

Good luck and make the best choice for your needs!

 

Except that there is LESS driving engagement wit MT, and LESS control !

With MT you are more engaged in shifting, less engaged in driving. Being in control means being able to steer, brake, and throttle at will. With MT you have to declutch longer than PDK (engine disconnected from the wheels, so out of control), leaving you out of control for longer !
Also at that time due to body movement you lose optimal connection with the car, hampering your control, feel and feedback from the chassis.

MT can give people the FUN of shifting, the FUN of heel & toe. And I get that. If you are still into that, it is THE best reason in the world to get MT. A perfect choice. But NOT for driving engagement, NOT for control.

So Neanicu is right, everyone should test both, and decide for themselves.

 

It is not only lazyness and citydriving why people choose a PDK. Some have been manually shifting, H&T'ing their whole life. Have been there, done that, do it naturally without thinking or blinking an eye. Therefor have lost interest/enjoyment into doing so and looking for the next level of control and involvement. That's what the PDK brings to the table for them !

 

These threads are just as retarded as political threads... nobody will ever convince the other side. I love both transmissions, and if I'd still lived in Germany I would have bought the 911 with the PDK, but since I live in the US now I bought it with the 7MT. Love the PDk on the Autobahn, over here in the US it hardly matters what transmission you have - it's all about the feel.

Also, the number 9 is the best tasting color.

 

Old 5th gear video on the cayman PDK vs Manual


One recent article on the 991 4S

http://www.autotrends.org/2014/02/03...11-carrera-4s/

To Porsche’s credit they haven’t discontinued the manual. There are enough of us out there that prefer to work the transmission and have little interest in auto stick or paddle shifters. Besides, when it comes to shifting, Porsche makes you feel like an expert with its short throw, smooth moving stick. It is the type of manual you wish every manufacturer used, although certainly not at the cost of a Porsche.

 

You assume incorrectly. I have owned a 997.1 MT, 997.2 MT and now a 991 MT...there is a big difference in everything about the way the 2 generations drive and that translates as well to the way the cars shift...

Do yourself a favor and try to drive a MT 991... I think you will be amazed. It's just like the vehicle itself, clean,civilized and very modern feeling.

Good luck!

 

What he said !!

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

I'm sure many of the PDK owners who came out of MT 911s, like myself, never drive the thing in automatic mode ... I start the car, put it in manual, put it in Sport or Sport Plus and shift it just like I would any MT car. I just don't need to use my left foot to do it. Crack off a few lightning fast downshifts and upshifts and you come to understand why they are phasing the clutch pedal out.

The only time my car is ever in auto mode is in a traffic jam or stuck at the drive-through.

If you want the MT, by all means, get it. But don't equate the PDK in your head with the Tiptronic or any other automatic transmission. And don't ever drive it in automatic unless you are on the track in Sport Plus mode.

 

FWIW,although some here think I'm talking out of my a*s,my comments came after having driven PDK quite a few times. Interesting technology and I personally have no problem with its desirability. I just think the sports car pkg works better for me with a manual transmission. I won't mention other factors that have been discussed numerous times.
I wouldn't mind having a PDK transmission in an SUV,like the Macan or Cayenne,that I DD and would get stuck in traffic quite often with where I live. I would actually prefer PDK to a regular automatic transmission. But in a 911 that I drive for fun,NO WAY-NEVER!!!
Although I agree the 911 is one of the most practical sport cars on the market,as a DD you do have to accept some compromises depending on where you live and your usability : low clearance,small trunk,no back seat room(unless you're 5 years old) etc. So,if you DD it,I can see why you'd prefer PDK,so more power to you.

 

Thought I'd throw out that there seems to be a bit of an undercurrent in the press/forums that disparage the 7 speed manual in the 991. I don't get it.
I can't say it's THE best, smoothest shifting, perfectly ratio'ed MT I've ever owned, but it's pretty damn good. I'm certainly glad I have it.

 

Huh? To say that a MT does not provide an as engaging experience as a PDK gearbox is just plain wrong. Driving isn't just about how fast you drive, which is where the PDK has the edge (at least on a track, where most of us spend very little to no time in our P-Cars). And to say that a MT provides less control than a PDK is just plain wrong as well. With a PDK you don't have the ability to modulate the clutch and throttle together as you can in a MT. It's the old analog vs. digital analogy. PDK is an on/off experience whereas the MT provides a range of possibilities. I wasn't going to chime in but I just couldn't help myself.

I actually couldn't care less how anybody chooses to spend their hard earned dollars on a sports car. But I do care when inaccurate comments are made.