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Old 11-03-2013, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBahamas View Post
I don't consider this "article" flattering for the Corvette...
If GM wants to move beyond the "for the price" association with the Corvette, then GM should really stop comparing the Corvette to the 911.

Because, as this "article" clearly states, in ENGLISH, the 911 is a higher quality product and a more fun product to use than the Corvette.

GM does Corvette a disservice by pushing the idea that their Corvette product is comparable to Porsche's 911 product.

Just read the "article".
Yup.

"The 911 is an eminently controllable, responsive vehicle that encourages its pilot to use every bit of its performance."

"The 911 also trumps the Vette in in*teri*or space."

"Both of our voters preferred the 911’s airy in*teri*or to the Vette’s cramped cockpit. Indeed, our drivers preferred the 911 in virtually every regard and agreed that it is more fun than the Vette."

"the Corvette suffers a few tells that it’s still merely posing as a six-figure supercar. The gap between door panel and dash is big enough to swallow a roll of nickels, and the entire door panel flexes when you press the unlock button. On our preproduction car, a coolant-return line came free of its moorings, rubbed on the alternator pulley, and misted the engine compartment with a gallon or so of Dex-Cool. The noisemaker got hot really fast after that."

"on a circuit, the Corvette’s relative nonchalance marginalizes the driver. The 911 responds to every little input. It squirms and rotates, and it’s easy to make it do so. The Corvette is so planted that it feels less like you’re controlling the car and more like you’re simply steering, using the wheel to point it where you want it to be and the accelerator to get it there. The higher fidelity of its steering broadcasts the lower fidelity of its chassis."
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I always wish they would use a manual trans 991 against the same trans on the C7. It is certainly possible to have a really nice 991S without 50K in extra options. I am surprised P always provides a car all porked out when they know this will be important in the final comments.
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:01 PM
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They should just send a zero-options base 991. Anything more is just piling on.
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:06 PM
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They should just send a base cayman w/ similar options
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fast1 View Post
According to this review the C7 is an outstanding sports car at an incredibly low price. I know that most Porsche buyers don't cross shop vettes, but it's always good to get to know the competition.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test
Or, maybe the 991 is just overpriced
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:49 PM
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Porsches have never been cheap or value. It's just what you have if you can afford it.
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaZombie View Post
Thank you - well said. Two different buyers for sure, perhaps in addition to preferences. I won't be buying a corvette in this lifetime or any other, and I would imagine I'm not the only one with that sentiment on here. The only corvette i'd even remotely be interested in is a '67 Sting Ray.
You should drive one. By today's standards they are slow and handle like a truck.
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Old 11-03-2013, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by carcommander View Post
You should drive one. By today's standards they are slow and handle like a truck.
I use to drag race my '67 C2 which had a 427 ci engine which produced 435 HP. In stock form I could easily turn low 13s in the 1/4. That's not a slow time even by todays standards. Just by adding headers I was able to run high 12s. There was a guy who had a 67 C2 with the L88 option that consistently ran in the high 10s. Of course his car was essentially a street legal race car. My recollection is that he didn't have a radio, heater or AC in his car. I believe that they were automatic deletes with the L88 option.
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Old 11-03-2013, 09:00 PM
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I've no doubt that you're right there. Probably quick in a straight line, but that's about it. Same as today's corvette. I just like the styling of that generation, nothing more than that. Zero plans to buy one.

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You should drive one. By today's standards they are slow and handle like a truck.
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Old 11-03-2013, 09:45 PM
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I owned several muscle cars in that era. Memory plays funny tricks.
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Originally Posted by fast1 View Post
I use to drag race my '67 C2 which had a 427 ci engine which produced 435 HP. In stock form I could easily turn low 13s in the 1/4. That's not a slow time even by todays standards. Just by adding headers I was able to run high 12s. There was a guy who had a 67 C2 with the L88 option that consistently ran in the high 10s. Of course his car was essentially a street legal race car. My recollection is that he didn't have a radio, heater or AC in his car. I believe that they were automatic deletes with the L88 option.
On slicks maybe and the rear ends and half shafts were fragile. And in a straight line only.
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Old 11-03-2013, 10:51 PM
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Thank you fast1 for making my point. The Corvette has always been a fast car for the money, but relative to the 911 a one-dimensional ride. I've read comparisons for more decades than I care to remember and looked at big picture like that its always been the same story. The 'vette is the car they made go fast in a straight line. That was never quite enough and over the years they've improved a lot. But compared to Porsche its always amounted more or less to slapping wide rubber and calling it good. That's why it always has gotten reviews like above "merely posing as a six-figure supercar" and "it feels less like you’re controlling the car and more like you’re simply steering, using the wheel to point it where you want it to be and the accelerator to get it there" while "Indeed, our drivers preferred the 911 in virtually every regard and agreed that it is more fun than the Vette."

In other words, while superficial numbers may make it SEEM as though these two cars are in the same league in reality a vast gulf separates them. A gulf that contrary to wishes is no less wide today than in decades past.

And it shall ever be so! GM knows that when it comes to performance all their buyers care about is being able to "beat" the car in the next lane in the 60 to 80 roll-off. Or who does the best burnout at the light. Whoop de fricken doo.
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