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Old 04-09-2013, 10:30 AM
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I got my first ticket in almost a decade about a month ago. I was in the country heading for a mtb ride at a recreation area in the National Forest. I had my V1 on but wasn't being alert enough myself. Saw the DPS car as he crested the hill in front of me, but stomping on the brake just as his instant on radar went off wasn't quite enough. In Texas, it's generally suggested to take Defensive Driving for your first offense. The county your ticket was issued in still gets a fee, and the ticket is dismissed. If it happens again, you ask for Deferred Disposition which is basically probation. This is what a lawyer would probably do for you, you can just ask for it yourself and it's almost always granted if your offense wasn't too egregious.
In the old days you could usually just keep postponing things and hope for the cop not to show in court and get a dismissal, but now with computerization of everything, the court will keep all contested cases on a docket where the officer WILL be there. I tried fighting one years ago that I really wasn't guilty of, but the court is stacked against you.
I have been watching my speed a bit closer since it happened.
Old 04-09-2013, 11:55 AM
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After reading the posts on this thread, I think you all have the wrong perspective. Just look at these speed traps as mobile toll booths.
Old 04-09-2013, 12:19 PM
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I own a bunch of high profile cars. I have a V1 permently installed in all of them. Having said that I watch my speed try to never do more the 10 over and try not to be visable in traffic. I also know where most of the traps are. No RED cars. When I do get a ticket, rarely, I hire and attorney to make it go away. I am not worried about the fine but if you get very many then they cancel you insurnance policy. The higher the profile car you have the slower you should go. With two tickets a third will probably get your policy canceled.
Old 04-09-2013, 12:28 PM
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I really like how Escort Live! app (paired with the 9500ci w/Smartcord) on the iPhone shows me any other alerts by Escort Live users or cuts out the stereo with an alert, and when I get near the in-car LED readout counts down the distance with a distinct sound. Also Trapster is a good free mobile app. Helps to have a useful car mount for those, though.
Old 04-09-2013, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by windboat
When I know that I am in a speed sensitive area, I set the speed limit alarm a couple miles over the speed limit. It reminds you to slow down when it alarms. Once when I got pulled over and told I was 12 miles over the 35 limit, I kindly showed the officer my speed alarm was set on 37, he said "oh ok, watch you speed and have a nice day", no ticket or warning.
Yes good point. Mine is set to 75 and has saved me several times.
Old 04-09-2013, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fast1
After reading the posts on this thread, I think you all have the wrong perspective. Just look at these speed traps as mobile toll booths.
If they had a special IFF-type tag you could get (allowing cops to see you are paying the 'performance tax') that would allow you an additional 5 (15-30 street), 10 (35-45) or 15 (50-60) , 20 (65) and 25 (70) mph over the speed limit (based on vehicle being capable of it, road, and NOT weaving in and out of traffic?) for $200-300 a month, I suspect state coffers would be getting a lot of revenue without having to send cops out to harass for revenue.

Cars handle better today and have more safety features, so it's crazy (and just incredibly irritating) to set generic low limits for higher performance cars particularly when roads and driving conditions would clearly allow higher speeds.

If you have heavy traffic, normal speeds apply. Done. Being legally able to do the speed + the normal bit of wiggle room + some fee+capability based addition would make life so nice. Not advocating 70 in neighborhoods or anything like that at all, but at least 100 on a clear highway really isn't exactly nuts. Drivers would probably be safer since they wouldn't be looking for cops ALL the time.

Speaking of mobile toll booths, I'd buy into that if they would at least turn a somewhat blind eye to cars going over the limit ON EMPTY TOLL ROADS. I see more cops in the toll roads/lanes here in the DC area (VA/MD/beltway) than on the normal road. Is there someone thinking 'wow, I'd like to pay extra to get a ticket!' out there?
Old 04-09-2013, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mrstep
If they had a special IFF-type tag you could get (allowing cops to see you are paying the 'performance tax') that would allow you an additional 5 (15-30 street), 10 (35-45) or 15 (50-60) , 20 (65) and 25 (70) mph over the speed limit (based on vehicle being capable of it, road, and NOT weaving in and out of traffic?) for $200-300 a month, I suspect state coffers would be getting a lot of revenue without having to send cops out to harass for revenue.

Cars handle better today and have more safety features, so it's crazy (and just incredibly irritating) to set generic low limits for higher performance cars particularly when roads and driving conditions would clearly allow higher speeds.

If you have heavy traffic, normal speeds apply. Done. Being legally able to do the speed + the normal bit of wiggle room + some fee+capability based addition would make life so nice. Not advocating 70 in neighborhoods or anything like that at all, but at least 100 on a clear highway really isn't exactly nuts. Drivers would probably be safer since they wouldn't be looking for cops ALL the time.

Speaking of mobile toll booths, I'd buy into that if they would at least turn a somewhat blind eye to cars going over the limit ON EMPTY TOLL ROADS. I see more cops in the toll roads/lanes here in the DC area (VA/MD/beltway) than on the normal road. Is there someone thinking 'wow, I'd like to pay extra to get a ticket!' out there?
This has little to nothing to do with safety. It's all about revenue collection. Their philosophy is that Porsche owners have lots of disposeable income, so let's give them a ticket. Moreover, most Porsche owners are unlikely to contest tickets since it's not worth their time and effort.
Old 04-09-2013, 08:18 PM
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I'm mostly just worried about the insurance angle...I'll pay to make the citation go away if I can.
Old 04-09-2013, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by carcommander
I own a bunch of high profile cars. I have a V1 permently installed in all of them. Having said that I watch my speed try to never do more the 10 over and try not to be visable in traffic. I also know where most of the traps are. No RED cars. When I do get a ticket, rarely, I hire and attorney to make it go away. I am not worried about the fine but if you get very many then they cancel you insurnance policy. The higher the profile car you have the slower you should go. With two tickets a third will probably get your policy canceled.
Where do you mount it? I have had 3 V1s and really like them, but there never seems to be a good place to put it. I have a Boxster S on order and I'm considering an Escort 9500ci for the way it mounts, but really like the Bogey count on the V1. I'm really surprised that, at the price of the 9500ci, it doesn't include that feature. Does Mike Valentine have a patent on that and won't license it?
Sorry for the hijack, but I'm scratching my head for a place to mount the V1 in a roadster that isn't obvious from outside and doesn't disable the passenger visor.
Any thoughts? I always have the remote display installed and that part is great.
I set my cruise at 72 on Ohio Interstates and have never been stopped at that speed (65 limit). I worked with the wife of a State Trooper about 10 years ago and she told me at the time they didn't stop anyone before 9-10 over unless they were acting stupid or dangerous.
Old 04-10-2013, 10:30 PM
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To buy a V1 today is buying sorely outdated tech. If your gonna go through the trouble of getting a radar then get one w GPS. It'll be so quiet that when it does start to go off you know it means business.

I have a 9500ci in my pickup truck and a 9500ix hard wired in my 993. I swear by them.
Old 04-11-2013, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Z356
'Excessive Speeding', defined by the Motor Vehicle Act as driving at speeds of 40 km/h OVER the speed limit, will result in the immediate IMPOUNDMENT of the vehicle you are driving! Then, if you have defaulted on your car loan, it will be indeed REPOSSESSED by a bank Repo agent... or, if you are considered armed & dangerous, by Dog!

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IMPOUNDED?! For a measly 40 kph over???!?!? I know Canada is a nanny state full of wimps with a top limit of like 90kph which is like 14 mph- sorry, 54 pmh, which in a Porsche feels like 14- but this is ridiculous! And please nobody correct me saying there's some place out on the tundra the nannies let you do 100kph, puleeze, that 10 kph is like 6 mph, about the width of the speedometer dial indicator, you can't even see it! Doesn't even qualify as a twitch of the throttle! If you make the blunder of driving while alive then as your heart beats the little pulses on the sole of your foot are gonna create more speed changes than that! What do they do there, spend all their time studying the speedometer? Or drive a real 14mph just to be on the "safe" side? (Aiming for full-on, overthetop rant mode- how'm I doin'?)

Seriously, last time I was up there, and it was like 10 years ago, I remember thinking the speed limits were only a little low... which thought would last about as long as it took me to recall they measure everything in something called millimeters, which is great, we let you drive 90 million millimeters per hour! Incredible! But then the reality of miles per hour kicks in and it knowing you're doing 54 (feels like 14) finally explains why the tundra just doesn't seem to be going anywhere! Because,... its not! And neither are you!

BUT, try and actually go somewhere and THEN you'll be moving... to impound! Crikey!

Honestly, after 30- no, wait- 36 years of utterly inveterate, unapologetic, hard-core speeding (ie, driving safely and sensibly and with due consideration yet with complete disregard for nanny-state arbitrariness) the most important thing I remember about the speed limit is to stop braking when you get back down to it.

I thought I'd posted this here already but maybe it was another thread. When I first read this article I'd already been driving safely and sensibly and with due consideration yet with complete disregard for nanny-state arbitrariness for several years, and so had learned pretty much everything here by trial and error already. But I can tell by the comments an awful lot of people have not. The fact is the toll booth guy is right, they are out to tax you. "Safe" has nothing to do with it, that's just a word they use to get your brain to shut off, same as "children" when they want to tax to pay for even more school administrators. So if you are going to do it- and that means at all, even once can get you paying the toll- then you need to be doing it right. (I would not trade the 911 in on a Camry, but I sure would avoid wings, and red...)

This article is old but everything in it still applies- in fact with cell phones even more so today. Read, study, print and carry around but most of all follow the rules. I don't get many tickets- clean record now in fact- but when I think back virtually every single time I have gotten one I was breaking one or more of the Rules. Of course you can do everything right and still get nailed, but the odds go way, way down if you discipline yourself to the Rules.

Enjoy, and be safe!

http://ibiblio.org/rdu/a-10fly.html
Old 04-11-2013, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck911
IMPOUNDED?! For a measly 40 kph over???!?!? I know Canada is a nanny state full of wimps with a top limit of like 90kph which is like 14 mph- sorry, 54 pmh, which in a Porsche feels like 14- but this is ridiculous! And please nobody correct me saying there's some place out on the tundra the nannies let you do 100kph, puleeze, that 10 kph is like 6 mph, about the width of the speedometer dial indicator, you can't even see it! Doesn't even qualify as a twitch of the throttle! If you make the blunder of driving while alive then as your heart beats the little pulses on the sole of your foot are gonna create more speed changes than that! What do they do there, spend all their time studying the speedometer? Or drive a real 14mph just to be on the "safe" side? (Aiming for full-on, overthetop rant mode- how'm I doin'?)

Seriously, last time I was up there, and it was like 10 years ago, I remember thinking the speed limits were only a little low... which thought would last about as long as it took me to recall they measure everything in something called millimeters, which is great, we let you drive 90 million millimeters per hour! Incredible! But then the reality of miles per hour kicks in and it knowing you're doing 54 (feels like 14) finally explains why the tundra just doesn't seem to be going anywhere! Because,... its not! And neither are you!

BUT, try and actually go somewhere and THEN you'll be moving... to impound! Crikey!

Honestly, after 30- no, wait- 36 years of utterly inveterate, unapologetic, hard-core speeding (ie, driving safely and sensibly and with due consideration yet with complete disregard for nanny-state arbitrariness) the most important thing I remember about the speed limit is to stop braking when you get back down to it.

I thought I'd posted this here already but maybe it was another thread. When I first read this article I'd already been driving safely and sensibly and with due consideration yet with complete disregard for nanny-state arbitrariness for several years, and so had learned pretty much everything here by trial and error already. But I can tell by the comments an awful lot of people have not. The fact is the toll booth guy is right, they are out to tax you. "Safe" has nothing to do with it, that's just a word they use to get your brain to shut off, same as "children" when they want to tax to pay for even more school administrators. So if you are going to do it- and that means at all, even once can get you paying the toll- then you need to be doing it right. (I would not trade the 911 in on a Camry, but I sure would avoid wings, and red...)

This article is old but everything in it still applies- in fact with cell phones even more so today. Read, study, print and carry around but most of all follow the rules. I don't get many tickets- clean record now in fact- but when I think back virtually every single time I have gotten one I was breaking one or more of the Rules. Of course you can do everything right and still get nailed, but the odds go way, way down if you discipline yourself to the Rules.

Enjoy, and be safe!

http://ibiblio.org/rdu/a-10fly.html
I drive between buffalo and toronto several times a year and although the limit is 100 aka roughly 60 mph everyone is going 85mph (QEW not some backroads). Last two trips I made up there I did not see one cop shooting radar. With that said the worst ticket of my young career was in east bumf&*k northern ontario. I was out camping and got lost on dirt roads in algonquin territory when I finally found the dang highway I had been looking for. I was lasered doing 162 kph in a 100. The cop looked at me and said, without being sarcastic, "do you know that we do not use mph?". I said yes sir and looked concerned. He wrote me up for like 135 otherwise I would be required to appear in court, which was 7 hours from my home.

Read the article. I totally agree it still applies. I always practice the same methods. It is common sense.

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Old 04-23-2013, 05:37 PM
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At the stop sign on the way to MotoGP last Sunday. Signaled, made a slow left turn and got pulled over and warned for no front plate by a DPS trooper that pulled to the side of the road a few yards down from the intersection. Please, this guy's got nothing better to do? Had I been driving a pick 'em up, he wouldn't have looked twice.
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Originally Posted by Nicoli35
I really like how Escort Live! app (paired with the 9500ci w/Smartcord) on the iPhone shows me any other alerts by Escort Live users or cuts out the stereo with an alert, and when I get near the in-car LED readout counts down the distance with a distinct sound. Also Trapster is a good free mobile app. Helps to have a useful car mount for those, though.
Sorry for going off topic for a quick question: is the Escort Live app working fine on your iPhone (5?) ? I tried to use it and I have to enter my iTunes password each time I start the app, it does not recognize my subscription, etc. I gave up on it but it is potentially a great product... if it works.

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I can't really see getting a car as nice as a 991 and having a radar detector hanging off the windshield. That is a disconnect to me. I have a Belltronics STIR Plus (Same as the Escort 9500 CI) and a Laser interceptor quad system installed and so far I have been impressed by it. I have left it on highway mode, the most sensitive, to see what to picks up. I am getting a lot of X and K door openers and what not but after you pass the same spot several times it "stores" the spot never to be heard from again. All the LEO's I have passed are running KA so far I'll give it more time and think about turning off X and K bands. I have seen lasers being used off of bridges and I did get a laser ticket one time at 4:30 am on the way to the airport in another car.

For my install I had the Radar Display mounted in the mirror my Radar Mirror and both switches/controls and mounted in the little storage niche in the console. Very clean, you would never know it was there.

Will it save me from every ticket? No, but it provides a lot more information then I had before.


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