kosmo

Chevy's product portfolio is too large for a salesman to handle. CHevy should consider having products specialist, especially in larger mkts, say, focusing on performance minded models like the Vette and Camaro.

kosmo

wow 3300lbs is a little heavier than I thought.

mrm 930

Sure the new corvette is probably more bang for the buck, but it still has the one big flaw - american made. There hasn't been a good car out of the US since the 60's or maybe the early 70's. Lack of vision, bad fit and finish, and too much design for the "masses"

I finally saw a new Vette in a parking lot and took a look. Camaro rear end, to much body sculpting on the hood and of course the fair interior fit and finish.

Also, you will always be the creepy old guy in these new vettes. If I were to purchase one it would be one from the 60's - either a 62, 63 or 67 coupe - with a "resto mod" restoration.

Just my thoughts - good or bad

Carrera GT

Loop post, but true enough. Mid-life crisis image. Low rent build quality and materials.
The Vette would be a track day trailer dweller car for me, maybe occasional weekender, so road image and street creed are no matter.
As for styling, are you sure you weren't looking at an F12? : )

Carrera GT

They're doing the specialist thing with the stingray. 900 dealers at launch. $1000 training to nominated sales staff with track driving days, hands on comparisons, etc.

Detroit Shooter

I was in the car business for most of my adult life. I worked for 1 on the domestics both out in the world and here in Detroit. I think you may want to re think American made cars. If you are comparing apples to apples price wise then you are OK but if you are comparing a $25K Chevy to a $50K BMW it will of course not add up. American quality has increased dramatically.

My last 3 cars have been BMW's. I now have a Volt (yea I know) and a 991S. I got the Volt for its uniqueness and for a winter car. The volt is not a luxury car but I have to tell you it is very nice and the quietest car I have ever owned. Its ride is equivalent to the 750il I was driving last. It in no way handles like the BMW but it was not designed to.

kosmo

just in, the first review... He looks happy, although I cant tell if it has Z51.


http://rumors.automobilemag.com/powe...#axzz2YBF2rFeO

Suzy991

100% agree!

Now they're even ruining the Fiat Group products which already had a bad reputation in terms of build quality, only not as bad as American reputation.
But have to agree that they are going the right way... Very slowly.... My guess is that around 2045 they're at the same level as European car manufacturers now are.

Only American cars I like are built in the 60's and early 70's.

BTW: Prices of the new Corvette start here in Europe around $100K.... Not really a bargain I guess.

Suzy991

SanibelSpeed

According to the latest JD Powers poll concerning initial quality, American brands came out on top:
http://autos.jdpower.com/content/blo...lity-study.htm

Maybe it's time to reevaluate old prejudices:

2013 IQS Ranking Highlights

Porsche ranks highest among nameplates included in the study, averaging 80 PP100. GMC ranks second with 90 PP100, and Lexus ranks third with 94 PP100. Infiniti (95 PP100) and Chevrolet (97 PP100) round out the five highest-ranked positions.

Among the 26 model-level segment awards, Chevrolet receives five, while Honda, Kia, Mazda and Porsche each receive two. Chevrolet models receiving an award are the Avalanche (tie), Camaro (tie), Impala, Silverado HD and Tahoe. Honda receives awards for the Civic and CR-V; Kia for the Soul and Sportage (tie); Mazda for the MAZDA2 and MX-5 Miata; and Porsche for the Boxster and 911.

Suzy991

And the study is sponsored by American car manufacturers???
I'm very sorry but I never believe those studies. I only trust my own experience.

Suzy991

Bill Coleman

Beat me too it -

J.D. Power ranks GM tops in quality for first time
http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/19/auto...-gm/index.html

Detroit Shooter

No, JD powers does these studies and all the manufacturers go by them. It is not an American study per se. JD powers is not paid to do theses types of studies. It does them on spec and sells them. Just curious when was the last time you drove an american car?

Suzy991

6 months ago I drove the last time an american car when we were in California... Two actually. Both were pretty new vehicles, a 2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8 and a 2012 Ford F150 Raptor, both owned by my girlfriends dad, who lives in California.
And don't get me wrong please. I don't hate American cars ar all. The Challenger is a great car, especially for the price in the U.S., but in terms of build quality of the interiors it is nothing special. I heard squeeks and rattles (probably resonation) and the car was only 3 weeks old. If I buy a car and it starts to squeek after 3 weeks I'll bring it back to the dealer, which he did and they said it was normal and even neighbours said that it was nothing t worry about....
I leave the Raptor out of this, because it's a completely different vehicle. But I read in some reviews (MT, R&T) that the Challenger had a very nice interior, but after experienced it myself I can't agree with that, compared to European brands. And I don't compare it with BMW, Merc or Audi... That would be unfair. I compare it with Ford EU, Opel (GM) and VW. They're all much better built IMO.
In fact, and this I find very strange, I sat in a 2012 Buick Regal, which is the exact same car as the european Opel Insignia... The Opel has completely different (nicer) materials. I couldn't believe my eyes! In terms of price they're pretty simular too....
So my guess js that the expectations of the average U.S. customer are lower than the average european costumer??? I have no idea to be honest. Or are we here in europe spoiled?? Or am I spoiled?

Suzy991

petee1997

I think Porsche should worry. The new Vette is going to give them some serious competition. From what I have read, they have new magnesium framed seats that are lightweight and solid fitting. The car has big power, rev matching 7 speed trans, suspension and brakes to compete when equipped with the X51 pack.

In Canada, the base price will start at 52,750.00 for the Stingray coupe and 58K for the convertible.

This is incredibly cheap for lots of car. You can get two well equipped Stingrays for the price I paid for my 991S Cab.

I for one, plan on looking at this car and if as good as stated, will buy one. This is an affordable DD.

kosmo

creepy old guy in a vette vs a sophisticated old guy in a Porsche.
I see the difference.