2014 Corvette
07-13-2013, 09:12 AM
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So 3298lb + Z51 + 3LT + dual exhaust. Maybe 3400lbs real world curb weight with half a tank?
Pull out the plush seats and some dead weight, bolt in a cage, shell seats, belts, data gear, run 30 minute sessions on a half tank, maybe 3300lbs track ready plus driver?
I want to hold the line and say that anything over 3000lb track ready is hefty, but these days, nothing limbos under that line.
Pull out the plush seats and some dead weight, bolt in a cage, shell seats, belts, data gear, run 30 minute sessions on a half tank, maybe 3300lbs track ready plus driver?
I want to hold the line and say that anything over 3000lb track ready is hefty, but these days, nothing limbos under that line.
07-13-2013, 09:26 AM
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I'm not surprised. Rick Hendrick's 00001 $1M pace car was a real crowd pleaser at Indy and Detroit. What does surprise me, however, is the animus expressed here and, similarly, on the corvette board regarding Porsche owners. There's much more going on here than simply a discussion of the machinery.
07-13-2013, 10:01 AM
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I'm not surprised. Rick Hendrick's 00001 $1M pace car was a real crowd pleaser at Indy and Detroit. What does surprise me, however, is the animus expressed here and, similarly, on the corvette board regarding Porsche owners. There's much more going on here than simply a discussion of the machinery.
On the other hand, it's good that there are lots of people who do like the design, because the Vette deserves the appreciation. There are not many cars that have that kind of history and been around for such a long time.
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07-13-2013, 10:12 AM
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Sorry, but the preoccupation with how it looks strikes me as superficial. I want to know about the driving experience and performance, on both road and track. Looks are pass/fail for me (with a generous standard), and the Vette passes easily.
07-13-2013, 11:06 AM
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I have not seen the new 7th generation Corvette in person yet but think the car looks fabulous and the interior options are light years ahead of the C6 model's rubbery plainness. I had been thinking about buying one but my wife is not a fan of Vettes. They have an image problem of fat, balding, old men in Hawaiian shirts wearing gold chains, pinky rings and smoking cigars. Because of its affordability, it also has a beer-drinking, NASCAR, blue collar image, as well. Not that either is an accurate image, mind you, just a perception that some people have toward the "typical" Vette owner.
I am none of the above (well, fat, maybe, and old, true, but none of the rest), but I appreciate the Vette because of just how good a car it is for the money. It handles well (except in the rain - the 911 runs circles around it in the rain), it's very fast, makes nice noise, is comfortable to sit in for even big guys like me, has a carbon fibre roof that can be ordered unpainted so you see all the CF which I'd have ordered had my wife not interfered, has plenty of storage (Im not a golfer but the 911 doesn't have the rear hatch space of the Corvette to put several golf bags into), and I personally think it looks as good as any Ferrari.
But the wife prefers the Porsche and I'm sure I will, too. That doesn't mean I won't stop admiring the new Vette when I have my C2S.
I am none of the above (well, fat, maybe, and old, true, but none of the rest), but I appreciate the Vette because of just how good a car it is for the money. It handles well (except in the rain - the 911 runs circles around it in the rain), it's very fast, makes nice noise, is comfortable to sit in for even big guys like me, has a carbon fibre roof that can be ordered unpainted so you see all the CF which I'd have ordered had my wife not interfered, has plenty of storage (Im not a golfer but the 911 doesn't have the rear hatch space of the Corvette to put several golf bags into), and I personally think it looks as good as any Ferrari.
But the wife prefers the Porsche and I'm sure I will, too. That doesn't mean I won't stop admiring the new Vette when I have my C2S.
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07-13-2013, 02:08 PM
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my apologies to Dr Jay - he's right
Jay,
my profuse apologies!!! You were right!!! you were focused on the brand and I forgot about the dealers!!! oops i forgot how dirty Rick Hendrick was!!! today, 8 months:after i placed my orders, Rick Hendrick tried to hijack me for and extra $5k. I cancelled all three orders. Dirty ole Rick and Gommint motors done drove me back on the porsche straight and narrow! Life is too short to do biz with dirty Rick.
it all comes back to me; Jay is right>
my profuse apologies!!! You were right!!! you were focused on the brand and I forgot about the dealers!!! oops i forgot how dirty Rick Hendrick was!!! today, 8 months:after i placed my orders, Rick Hendrick tried to hijack me for and extra $5k. I cancelled all three orders. Dirty ole Rick and Gommint motors done drove me back on the porsche straight and narrow! Life is too short to do biz with dirty Rick.
it all comes back to me; Jay is right>
07-13-2013, 05:39 PM
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. . . You were right!!! you were focused on the brand and I forgot about the dealers!!! oops i forgot how dirty Rick Hendrick was!!! today, 8 months:after i placed my orders, Rick Hendrick tried to hijack me for and extra $5k. I cancelled all three orders. Dirty ole Rick and Gommint motors done drove me back on the porsche straight and narrow! Life is too short to do biz with dirty Rick. . . . .
07-14-2013, 01:22 PM
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Chris I forgot about the used PDK turbo, another great choice and ahead of the Vette.
Yea I still want to know who approved the 991 badging. IF there is ONE car in the WORLD that you DONT have to have the WHOLE name spelled out on the back it IS the Porsche 911.
I have to say tho, I respect Rileys opinion and the fact he put a deposit down on the vette is going to make me take a test drive.
One option is sell the X5M buy a C7 and keep the 997.2
Yea I still want to know who approved the 991 badging. IF there is ONE car in the WORLD that you DONT have to have the WHOLE name spelled out on the back it IS the Porsche 911.
I have to say tho, I respect Rileys opinion and the fact he put a deposit down on the vette is going to make me take a test drive.
One option is sell the X5M buy a C7 and keep the 997.2
I like to think of myself as being more like "Disco Stu" from the TV Show The Simpsons... For we all know "Disco Stu does not advertise!"!!!
07-15-2013, 09:40 AM
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I think the gold chain/fake tan image of the Corvette is very dated. I've only heard that from people aged over 45. I'm guessing it was true in the 70's/80's?
I like the 991 but not enough to fork over 130k. I'll hold on to the 997S and Boss 302 and maybe consider adding this 50k performance bargain if it drives as well as it looks on paper.
I like the 991 but not enough to fork over 130k. I'll hold on to the 997S and Boss 302 and maybe consider adding this 50k performance bargain if it drives as well as it looks on paper.
07-15-2013, 09:50 AM
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Sure the new corvette is probably more bang for the buck, but it still has the one big flaw - american made. There hasn't been a good car out of the US since the 60's or maybe the early 70's. Lack of vision, bad fit and finish, and too much design for the "masses"
I finally saw a new Vette in a parking lot and took a look. Camaro rear end, to much body sculpting on the hood and of course the fair interior fit and finish.
Also, you will always be the creepy old guy in these new vettes. If I were to purchase one it would be one from the 60's - either a 62, 63 or 67 coupe - with a "resto mod" restoration.
Just my thoughts - good or bad
I finally saw a new Vette in a parking lot and took a look. Camaro rear end, to much body sculpting on the hood and of course the fair interior fit and finish.
Also, you will always be the creepy old guy in these new vettes. If I were to purchase one it would be one from the 60's - either a 62, 63 or 67 coupe - with a "resto mod" restoration.
Just my thoughts - good or bad
07-15-2013, 11:04 AM
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I do agree, the previous vette interiors (and dodge and ford but GM led the way!) were awful, IMO. Styling is subjective, but cheap crap is cheap crap, and there is a lot less of it these days.
The level of play in the performance game from performance numbers to build quality is, it seems to me, being elevated by a number of makers and that's good for everybody.