2014 Corvette
07-15-2013, 11:15 AM
#151
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I do agree, the previous vette interiors (and dodge and ford but GM led the way!) were awful, IMO. Styling is subjective, but cheap crap is cheap crap, and there is a lot less of it these days.
The level of play in the performance game from performance numbers to build quality is, it seems to me, being elevated by a number of makers and that's good for everybody.
07-15-2013, 12:04 PM
#152
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I've got a GT500 (2013) and a 392 SRT Challenger that sits beside a 72 Challenger. These new cars are not only obviously better put together than any old muscle they are just plain put together well. The interiors are improving in quality drastically as a particular note.
I do agree, the previous vette interiors (and dodge and ford but GM led the way!) were awful, IMO. Styling is subjective, but cheap crap is cheap crap, and there is a lot less of it these days.
The level of play in the performance game from performance numbers to build quality is, it seems to me, being elevated by a number of makers and that's good for everybody.
I do agree, the previous vette interiors (and dodge and ford but GM led the way!) were awful, IMO. Styling is subjective, but cheap crap is cheap crap, and there is a lot less of it these days.
The level of play in the performance game from performance numbers to build quality is, it seems to me, being elevated by a number of makers and that's good for everybody.
The modern American muscle - interior, performance, sound, and overall driving experience is fantastic. I feel sorry for anyone who writes off a vehicle as junk because it's American, German, Italian, doesn't matter. You're denying yourself a whole lot of fun.
Would love to see some pics of your collection, especially the 13 GT500 with 662hp...greatest Shelby GT500 ever made.
07-15-2013, 12:11 PM
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^ American cars may be better than they used to be, but I see them breaking down a lot more often at the track than Porsches. They can be fast ... until they stop working. I hope the new Vette is an exception to this, since at that price I'm considering it seriously.
07-15-2013, 12:34 PM
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I have a turbo and a ZR1 (09) . I would have a hard time deciding which I would let go if I had to choose between the two. I do know I have no interest in the C7 as the C6 ZR1 is the nicest looking.
07-16-2013, 07:58 AM
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BT ZR1, your right: there is no comparison btw a Porsche Turbo, yr ZR1 and a $52k C7. Give it time.
07-18-2013, 11:15 AM
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http://autos.yahoo.com/news/7-things...005242172.html
Some impressive engineering, and interesting that they used (only) the 991S PDK as their benchmark.
Some impressive engineering, and interesting that they used (only) the 991S PDK as their benchmark.
07-26-2013, 09:57 AM
#157
First video test of the 2014 Corvette Z51 Coupe shows impressive numbers:
0-60 in under 4 secs; quarter mile in 12.0 secs @ 117 MPH; 60-0 stop in 93 feet; lateral acceleration: over 1G. And the car looks very good, IMO. These are just numbers, however: a real comparison test would pit equally-equipped cars with the same drivers on the same track under the same conditions and compare lap times. But if you're not going to track your car, that isn't relevant and it would seem that Corvette has done a good job of matching the 911. You be the judge: watch the video and read the story printed on the page below the video.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/t...rack-test.html
0-60 in under 4 secs; quarter mile in 12.0 secs @ 117 MPH; 60-0 stop in 93 feet; lateral acceleration: over 1G. And the car looks very good, IMO. These are just numbers, however: a real comparison test would pit equally-equipped cars with the same drivers on the same track under the same conditions and compare lap times. But if you're not going to track your car, that isn't relevant and it would seem that Corvette has done a good job of matching the 911. You be the judge: watch the video and read the story printed on the page below the video.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/t...rack-test.html
07-26-2013, 12:40 PM
#158
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Optimus prime is no match for the 991 ;-)
07-26-2013, 02:50 PM
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Here are the cars I traded towards my 2013 Black 991 Carrera S in December:
And when I decided to trade the black car for my white 2013 Carrera S, I revisited a few options before I took the hit: I retried the ZR1, the Shelby and the GTR.
All I can say is that I'm loving the daylights out of my new Porsche.
And when I decided to trade the black car for my white 2013 Carrera S, I revisited a few options before I took the hit: I retried the ZR1, the Shelby and the GTR.
All I can say is that I'm loving the daylights out of my new Porsche.
07-26-2013, 03:19 PM
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At Bloomington Gold (big corvette show in Champaign, Il) GM had 5 or 6 new C7s. The first time I had seen the car in the flesh. From pictures I too hadn't liked the rear end. Seeing the car for real, it is great and one of the best angles is 1/4 view of the rear. The whole of the back window, rear fender treatment is very well done. I heard a couple of people talking and saying if there was no identification on the car it would be assumed to be an Italian exotic. Seats were much better than C6 Z06 and transmission throws very short and crisp. Obviously no chance to drive the cars. I will get one year two of production.
Just did 1,000 mile drive in new 991 CS2. Great car! PDK significantly better than in my 2009 997.
Just did 1,000 mile drive in new 991 CS2. Great car! PDK significantly better than in my 2009 997.
07-26-2013, 07:10 PM
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07-26-2013, 07:21 PM
#163
Anyway, V12 Ferrari vs Corvette would have been ludicrous in 599 vs C6, but I don't think it's outrageous to compare (if not confuse ... sheesh ...) F12 and C7 (exterior only.)
07-26-2013, 07:45 PM
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07-26-2013, 07:51 PM
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These two marques have been rivals for 7 generations and here's a little historical perspective:
From the August 2009 issue of Automobile Magazine -
"Chevrolet Corvette Vs Porsche 911 They are the yin and yang of sports cars, with a full century of heritage between them. Chevy's Corvette and Porsche's 911 are the patron saints of the go-fast faith, yet they are so diametrically opposed that their respective followers never play well together. Five years ago, following heated debate, this contentious duo topped Automobile Magazine's catalog of 100 Coolest Cars. Although we admire both of these sports cars for the power and speed they bring to the driving party, let's remember that each of them grew out of humble origins. The Corvette was born in 1953 as a 90-pound weakling with a Blue Flame Six and a two-speed automatic transmission inhibiting its vitality. A decade later, when the 911 debuted at the Frankfurt auto show, an unassuming 130-hp, 2.0-liter engine buzzed in its tail. Before Porsche settled on flat sixes, a few rogue four-cylinder engines corrupted the bloodline. The Corvette's closet also harbors skeletons. In 1975, the catalytic converter's arrival left the Vette's 5.7-liter V-8 with an anemic 165 hp. Through six generations of relentless development, both cars have prospered. Porsche's trophy case is stuffed with world rally and road-racing championships; two 24 Hours of Le Mans victories were also earned by race cars with thin but legitimate ties to the production 911. Likewise, Corvette C5 and C6 racers have been the scourge of the GT category, with one overall Daytona 24 Hour win, six Le Mans class victories, and eight ALMS championships to their credit. Lessons learned in racing have made the top roadgoing versions of each marque capable of defending their honor at the Nürburgring's Nordschleife. About half a million Porsche 911s have been produced over five decades. The current menu lists three roof configurations, two drivelines, three transmissions, and countless trim options. Engines range from the base 345-hp, 3.6-liter flat six to a track-ready, 530-hp twin-turbo six also displacing 3.6 liters. More than 1.5 million Corvettes have been built. C6 models have recently nibbled away some of the 911's savoir-faire edge with conscientious quality, trim, steering, and transmission upgrades. But it's the bang for the buck best exemplified by the 638-hp, $109,530 ZR1 that keeps the Corvette faithful coming back for more."
The C7 just ramps up the competition.
From the August 2009 issue of Automobile Magazine -
"Chevrolet Corvette Vs Porsche 911 They are the yin and yang of sports cars, with a full century of heritage between them. Chevy's Corvette and Porsche's 911 are the patron saints of the go-fast faith, yet they are so diametrically opposed that their respective followers never play well together. Five years ago, following heated debate, this contentious duo topped Automobile Magazine's catalog of 100 Coolest Cars. Although we admire both of these sports cars for the power and speed they bring to the driving party, let's remember that each of them grew out of humble origins. The Corvette was born in 1953 as a 90-pound weakling with a Blue Flame Six and a two-speed automatic transmission inhibiting its vitality. A decade later, when the 911 debuted at the Frankfurt auto show, an unassuming 130-hp, 2.0-liter engine buzzed in its tail. Before Porsche settled on flat sixes, a few rogue four-cylinder engines corrupted the bloodline. The Corvette's closet also harbors skeletons. In 1975, the catalytic converter's arrival left the Vette's 5.7-liter V-8 with an anemic 165 hp. Through six generations of relentless development, both cars have prospered. Porsche's trophy case is stuffed with world rally and road-racing championships; two 24 Hours of Le Mans victories were also earned by race cars with thin but legitimate ties to the production 911. Likewise, Corvette C5 and C6 racers have been the scourge of the GT category, with one overall Daytona 24 Hour win, six Le Mans class victories, and eight ALMS championships to their credit. Lessons learned in racing have made the top roadgoing versions of each marque capable of defending their honor at the Nürburgring's Nordschleife. About half a million Porsche 911s have been produced over five decades. The current menu lists three roof configurations, two drivelines, three transmissions, and countless trim options. Engines range from the base 345-hp, 3.6-liter flat six to a track-ready, 530-hp twin-turbo six also displacing 3.6 liters. More than 1.5 million Corvettes have been built. C6 models have recently nibbled away some of the 911's savoir-faire edge with conscientious quality, trim, steering, and transmission upgrades. But it's the bang for the buck best exemplified by the 638-hp, $109,530 ZR1 that keeps the Corvette faithful coming back for more."
The C7 just ramps up the competition.