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So, now that the Carrera 4 is on its way, I figured it was time to get my order in. My 12th Porsche, so I wanted something a little different:
Carrera 4 Cabriolet
Black
Red top
Black full leather
Deviating sport seats in red
Heated/cooled
20" Carrera S wheel in platinum
Spacers
Delete model designation
PDK
PASM
Sport Chrono
Sport Exhaust
Sport Design wheel
Burmester audio
My first question is about Sport Chrono. I think I'm buying it mainly for the active engine dampers, but wonder if a) those really help and b) if there is some other aspect of Sport Chrono that is desirable (or not)?
If you could pick one feature I left off and add it, what would that be?
Thanks.
Carrera 4 Cabriolet
Black
Red top
Black full leather
Deviating sport seats in red
Heated/cooled
20" Carrera S wheel in platinum
Spacers
Delete model designation
PDK
PASM
Sport Chrono
Sport Exhaust
Sport Design wheel
Burmester audio
My first question is about Sport Chrono. I think I'm buying it mainly for the active engine dampers, but wonder if a) those really help and b) if there is some other aspect of Sport Chrono that is desirable (or not)?
If you could pick one feature I left off and add it, what would that be?
Thanks.
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So, now that the Carrera 4 is on its way, I figured it was time to get my order in. My 12th Porsche, so I wanted something a little different:
Carrera 4 Cabriolet
Black
Red top
Black full leather
Deviating sport seats in red
Heated/cooled
20" Carrera S wheel in platinum
Spacers
Delete model designation
PDK
PASM
Sport Chrono
Sport Exhaust
Sport Design wheel
Burmester audio
My first question is about Sport Chrono. I think I'm buying it mainly for the active engine dampers, but wonder if a) those really help and b) if there is some other aspect of Sport Chrono that is desirable (or not)?
If you could pick one feature I left off and add it, what would that be?
Thanks.
Carrera 4 Cabriolet
Black
Red top
Black full leather
Deviating sport seats in red
Heated/cooled
20" Carrera S wheel in platinum
Spacers
Delete model designation
PDK
PASM
Sport Chrono
Sport Exhaust
Sport Design wheel
Burmester audio
My first question is about Sport Chrono. I think I'm buying it mainly for the active engine dampers, but wonder if a) those really help and b) if there is some other aspect of Sport Chrono that is desirable (or not)?
If you could pick one feature I left off and add it, what would that be?
Thanks.
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The big thing to me with sport chrono is PDK shift mapping and launch control.
With sport + engaged the car shifts hard in manual or automatic mode.
In automatic mode it is very very aggressive in its shifts and downshifts. It is all in. I tend to go manual when getting into it but I want to play with that more.
Launch control is impressive, you may not use if much but it is sure to please.
Nice build I don't think I have seen black with a red top, have a photo?
With sport + engaged the car shifts hard in manual or automatic mode.
In automatic mode it is very very aggressive in its shifts and downshifts. It is all in. I tend to go manual when getting into it but I want to play with that more.
Launch control is impressive, you may not use if much but it is sure to please.
Nice build I don't think I have seen black with a red top, have a photo?
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I'll post a picture if/when the car arrives (May?). Or maybe not; my pitiful 2.3Mb of pix "exceeds my quota by 808kb". Not sure what that is about. Or did my premium membership run out?
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The platinum wheels are positively edible.. although your car will have dual tailpipes with the PSE. (I personaly like the dual tailpipes in brushed finish standard on 3.8, alas will not be able to get these on the 3.4 with the sport tailpipe option - only the chromed ones like the PSE)
BTW, you are one of the handful here who I agree with that the 3.4 engine not only sounds better but is the best option for a DD (especially if you want to have some fun on the roads without speeding so much as to being in the haul off to jail category) if the car is not tracked regularly.
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BTW, you are one of the handful here who I agree with that the 3.4 engine not only sounds better but is the best option for a DD (especially if you want to have some fun on the roads without speeding so much as to being in the haul off to jail category) if the car is not tracked regularly.
a) People who love torque from 1.5-3k. They should get the 3.8L. Though I think they might actually want another car (with a turbo).
b) People who feel like the 3.8L must be better, but aren't sure of the value proposition. My message to them is that in a rational, describable sense the 3.4L is better (not 'nearly as good', not 'better for the money', just 'better') for some needs and thus I would think of the two engines as chocolate and vanilla, not good and best. In the former case of chocolate and vanilla, we recognize that things are different and we choose based on needs/taste/whim.
c) People who will just be happier swinging a big axe. Regardless of the experience, they should buy the 3.8L.
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I'm just hoping Sport Chrono doesn't kill the tail swing I like!
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I had a quartz gray Audi S5 with a red top and interior as my DD that got more complements than any other car I have ever owned. I replaced it with my current DD, a 991C2S with 7mt because I grew tired of the DSG tranny.
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Carrera 4 Cabriolet
Black
Red top
Black full leather
Deviating sport seats in red
Heated/cooled
20" Carrera S wheel in platinum
Spacers
Delete model designation
PDK
PASM
Sport Chrono
Sport Exhaust
Sport Design wheel
Burmester audio
If you could pick one feature I left off and add it, what would that be?
Black
Red top
Black full leather
Deviating sport seats in red
Heated/cooled
20" Carrera S wheel in platinum
Spacers
Delete model designation
PDK
PASM
Sport Chrono
Sport Exhaust
Sport Design wheel
Burmester audio
If you could pick one feature I left off and add it, what would that be?
As far as options, everyone generally feels whatever they have spec'd is best! IMO to save some gingle you could do w/o SC, SE and Burmester (I'd still recommend the Bose u/g). If you're not getting a premium package, don't forget dimming mirrors!
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I think you put your finger on why my favorite 991 so far was a car with just PASM. Maybe I'm a closet drifter, but at street speeds the loaded coupes I've driven were a little dull. Taking PTV and PDCC off makes the car feel heavier, but also telegraphs more of what the masses are doing. I like that. Some might hate it. The wonder of Porsche is that you can buy these bits a) at all and b) pretty much a la carte. There is a price to be paid, of course, for that privilege.
I'm just hoping Sport Chrono doesn't kill the tail swing I like!
I'm just hoping Sport Chrono doesn't kill the tail swing I like!
More seriously, the difference in performance between the smaller and larger engine, and any variation in suspension options is more theoretical than real- at street speeds. The difference in Goodyears and Pirellis (and tire pressures) are likely to overwhelm the rest. The Carrera has dynamics that are as good as previous S models. But for sure the Carrera with no suspension goodies handles more like an old style 911 at the limit than one with goodies or an S which comes with the goodies.
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I certainly can't speak for others, but my observation about the 3.4L vs. 3.8L is that there are three groups:
a) People who love torque from 1.5-3k. They should get the 3.8L. Though I think they might actually want another car (with a turbo).
b) People who feel like the 3.8L must be better, but aren't sure of the value proposition. My message to them is that in a rational, describable sense the 3.4L is better (not 'nearly as good', not 'better for the money', just 'better') for some needs and thus I would think of the two engines as chocolate and vanilla, not good and best. In the former case of chocolate and vanilla, we recognize that things are different and we choose based on needs/taste/whim.
c) People who will just be happier swinging a big axe. Regardless of the experience, they should buy the 3.8L.
a) People who love torque from 1.5-3k. They should get the 3.8L. Though I think they might actually want another car (with a turbo).
b) People who feel like the 3.8L must be better, but aren't sure of the value proposition. My message to them is that in a rational, describable sense the 3.4L is better (not 'nearly as good', not 'better for the money', just 'better') for some needs and thus I would think of the two engines as chocolate and vanilla, not good and best. In the former case of chocolate and vanilla, we recognize that things are different and we choose based on needs/taste/whim.
c) People who will just be happier swinging a big axe. Regardless of the experience, they should buy the 3.8L.