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Old 06-22-2012, 06:48 PM
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"The option list for the Porsche 911 Carrera S will get a little bit longer early this fall, as the automaker will offer new power and aero kits. The power kit option is the real deal: Rather than merely giving you a new ECU profile, it provides a (subtly) modified cylinder head with a more aggressive camshaft profile, plus an additional resonance flap in the intake to provide a slightly different sound."

From edmunds inside line. Power increases to 430.


"The result is a bump in horsepower from 400 to 430, and it's enough of an increase that Porsche added an additional center radiator. The package is likely to be a big-ticket add-on, as it's bundled with the current Sport Chrono ($1,850) and Sport Exhaust ($2,950) options. Apparently, the power increase won't affect fuel mileage."
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Originally Posted by BED997
" Apparently, the power increase won't affect fuel mileage."
Or real world performance...
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Originally Posted by SharpMan
Or real world performance...
Actually the 'Autoweek' review I saw said the powerkit will decrease 0-60 time by .4 sec. That seems like a lot! This may be the Eticket for this car!
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 96redLT4
Actually the 'Autoweek' review I saw said the powerkit will decrease 0-60 time by .4 sec. That seems like a lot! This may be the Eticket for this car!
J
I decreases 0-62 from 4.1 to 4.0 against standard C2S given that standard car is equipped with sport chrono.
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Originally Posted by Roman Dudinov
I decreases 0-62 from 4.1 to 4.0 against standard C2S given that standard car is equipped with sport chrono.
Well spotted. Damned lies and statistics. I believe torque is unchanged and power is all at the top end.

This is out a few weeks too late to grab my business so I hope it's prohibitively expensive. I'd hate to see a performance bargain emerge just weeks after my order locks out!! Selfish I know. Sorry
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Strong likelihood it'll appear for free on a GTS when Porsche thinks the model needs a boost. Perhaps in a couple of years.

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Loss of .1 of a second to 62! It must the the extra weight of all that lettering on the engine cover trim.
Old 06-23-2012, 06:07 PM
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I'm heading down to Best Buy to get some LED back-lit computer fans to "upgrade" the engine.
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Originally Posted by BED997
"The result is a bump in horsepower from 400 to 430, and it's enough of an increase that Porsche added an additional center radiator. The package is likely to be a big-ticket add-on, as it's bundled with the current Sport Chrono ($1,850) and Sport Exhaust ($2,950) options. Apparently, the power increase won't affect fuel mileage."
Funny, the 996 GT3, 996 X51 and 997.1 S (some years) all had center radiators. All of which had less HP than even the current regular S.
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One has to wonder how long Porsche can keep this marketing strategy going. Saturating the brand with 20-plus variants on a single product will get old eventually, even with people who can afford it. At some point, all Porsche products are becoming clones of themselves, bloated pricing being the only uncommon demoninator.
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Originally Posted by 96redLT4
Actually the 'Autoweek' review I saw said the powerkit will decrease 0-60 time by .4 sec. That seems like a lot! This may be the Eticket for this car!
J
That would be more like the delta from base Carrera to an S with power kit and launch mode.

If they did get the Carrera into the mid 3's, that would make the forthcoming Turbo quite something.
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Originally Posted by Roman Dudinov
I decreases 0-62 from 4.1 to 4.0 against standard C2S given that standard car is equipped with sport chrono.
Remember though P is usually pretty conservative with their performance estimates. I wonder if the difference would be more palpable in a 7 spd than the PDK with sport chrono which is pretty darn quick to start with. I am looking for a manual tranny but just with a little more stock torque/hp to replace my 05,
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Originally Posted by 96redLT4
Remember though P is usually pretty conservative with their performance estimates. I wonder if the difference would be more palpable in a 7 spd than the PDK with sport chrono which is pretty darn quick to start with. I am looking for a manual tranny but just with a little more stock torque/hp to replace my 05,
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Yes, you are right 991 C2S usually clocks 0-62 from 3.8 to 4.0 seconds on independent tests in Europe. I would imagine Powerkit car will be able to do something like 3.7 seconds 0-62 in the most favorouble conditions. So I would imagine that if you are absolutely fantastic with manual you can expect the same 0.3 seconds off the time stated by Porsche.

However I don't think it has any major impact on the real world pace and driving experience. As well as this, I think that the price of generously specced C2S with power kit will be pushed well into GT3 territory which doesn't make it a sensible purchase.
Old 06-23-2012, 08:19 PM
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I saw a "drag race" between a 991S and a 997.2 GTS (both PDK) with the cars in a rolling start, 1st gear, Sport Plus mode, "mash the throttle pedal" (push down on the floor button) which took the cars over about a quarter mile, from about 20 mph to about 110 or 120 mph. Level ground, slight tail breeze.

For three runs, the 991 S consistently moved ahead of the 997 GTS. It wasn't by much, but in every gear, the 991 was a tad quicker.

I had expected the GTS to have the edge since it wasn't a launch mode drag from a standing start, so any upgrades to PDK wouldn't be in play. Still, once the initial reaction time was negated (whether the 991 was a nose ahead or the 997 was ahead) you could see the relative movement of the cars, side by side, and the 991 was consistently moving ahead in every gear and clearly at 110 or 120, both cars had another 50 mph of acceleration to go.

Overall, I guess it makes sense to see Porsche put the "new" car slightly ahead of the "old" car, but since the old car in this case is also the hot rod version of the old car, I expected the GTS would still hold the edge. It would also have gone some way towards me rationalizing the GTS as a better all-rounder for my purposes.

As ever, I have to make the note that if only the Power Kit included steering with feel and feedback, it would be worth it. I'd just have to get a body shop to erase the script from the computer cooling fan shroud. : )

Anyway, bring on the Power Kit 3 ... I mean 991 PK3 ... errr ... 991 GT3 ... : |
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Actually, with all that power and the gearing on the new cars, 0-62 variations are not much an indication of capability. My new car runs past 60 on the way to OMG I better stop this way faster than my old one did. I'll wait for times and speeds in the quarter mile before making a judgement.


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