Finally my 991 Build
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I am confident that the now FREE sport buttom will be a step forward, but my premise is that a base Carrera should be a fast and fun car bare bones , without the PASM, PSE, SC, SC+, blah, blah, blah and all those costly performance options.
If it isnt as freaking fast and fun to drive as my 6speed Mini John Cooper Works, I will have thrown $126K down the drain.
Last week I test drove a 911 for the first time, it was a manual 997 Carrera 4S, which btw is the only 911 test car avaliable to me, and I liked it a lot, having said that, a medium optioned 991 CS is way over my budget at $160K.
If it isnt as freaking fast and fun to drive as my 6speed Mini John Cooper Works, I will have thrown $126K down the drain.
Last week I test drove a 911 for the first time, it was a manual 997 Carrera 4S, which btw is the only 911 test car avaliable to me, and I liked it a lot, having said that, a medium optioned 991 CS is way over my budget at $160K.
Last edited by Galion; 09-11-2011 at 05:37 PM.
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I don't mean to be a jerk but silver over black is a bit typical. They offer so many interesting combos to pick from. Silver over red maybe? Think about it.
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Galion,
What country are you in? Standard features vary dramatically from country to country. I think folks assume you are in the USA but, even if you are only in Canada, standard features are different.
And you will find that quite a few folks here lean heavily on the track-oriented options. However, your original options list and statement about expected style of use indicates clearly that those recommended sport options would be a waste of money for you.
1. Your first Porsche
2. Your are the one spending the money
3. Get whatever sounds good to you.
Virtually everyone here would build it differently in some way to suit their personal tastes.
It is a Porsche 991. There are no wrong answers.
What country are you in? Standard features vary dramatically from country to country. I think folks assume you are in the USA but, even if you are only in Canada, standard features are different.
And you will find that quite a few folks here lean heavily on the track-oriented options. However, your original options list and statement about expected style of use indicates clearly that those recommended sport options would be a waste of money for you.
1. Your first Porsche
2. Your are the one spending the money
3. Get whatever sounds good to you.
Virtually everyone here would build it differently in some way to suit their personal tastes.
It is a Porsche 991. There are no wrong answers.
Last edited by Thundertub; 09-12-2011 at 05:10 PM.
#20
Galion,
This is what makes a Porsche the car it is today. You can select a many or few options as you would like. However, The pricing seems costly in comparison to what you are actually getting for the money.
Good luck in the purchase.
This is what makes a Porsche the car it is today. You can select a many or few options as you would like. However, The pricing seems costly in comparison to what you are actually getting for the money.
Good luck in the purchase.
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Thank you very much, things are clearer for me now. I have updated my build in order to keep it simpler and I am saving a few $$$ too I think thats the way I will enjoy my first 911 more
911 Carrera
Platinum Silver Metallic
Partial leather interior in Black
Porsche crest in headrests
ParkAssist front and rear
Model designition "911"
Porsche dimming interior mirror w/rain sensor
Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) ****Sport Button is STD****
20-inch Carrera S wheel
Floor mats
Light design package
Cruise control
HomeLink® (garage door opener)
SportDesign steering wheel
Aluminium brushed interior package
Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module
911 Carrera
Platinum Silver Metallic
Partial leather interior in Black
Porsche crest in headrests
ParkAssist front and rear
Model designition "911"
Porsche dimming interior mirror w/rain sensor
Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) ****Sport Button is STD****
20-inch Carrera S wheel
Floor mats
Light design package
Cruise control
HomeLink® (garage door opener)
SportDesign steering wheel
Aluminium brushed interior package
Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module
Last edited by Galion; 09-12-2011 at 12:22 AM.
#22
Your new spec is much cleaner and focused. So far so good. However, you are significantly reducing the number of eventual potential buyers, and, more importantly, robbing yourself of the absolute thrill of Sport Plus' race-bred gear shift programme by leaving Sport Chrono P+ off the list. The Sport button alone does not provide this.
This is your first Porsche and if you are one of the lucky ones who "gets it", your life is going to change. Judging by the size of your first spec I'm pretty sure your existence won't be threatened by the expenditure of a couple of thousand $s. But how will you feel driving around in a sports car that's been neutered?
In fact, 20" wheels are uncomfortable, unnecessary and handle worse than 19"s. Pay for the SC+ by dropping these.
This is your first Porsche and if you are one of the lucky ones who "gets it", your life is going to change. Judging by the size of your first spec I'm pretty sure your existence won't be threatened by the expenditure of a couple of thousand $s. But how will you feel driving around in a sports car that's been neutered?
In fact, 20" wheels are uncomfortable, unnecessary and handle worse than 19"s. Pay for the SC+ by dropping these.
#23
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I wish people would stop writing about THEIR 20" issues as "facts".
What is a "fact" is that the "S" (with 20") has set a phenomenal time on the Ring.
Porsche is using 20" because technology allows it. And because it looks good.
I am old enough to remember Porsche going to 16" on the turbo for the first time.
The debate among the "die hard's" was very similar. Why don't you 20" haters at least reserve judgement until you had a change of driving a car with 20" ?
And to the OP , your spec looks great ! You'll have one beautiful 911
No need for Sportchrono imo.
As an aside , my 991 will be manual not because I do not like PDK but because I know from experience that I will be driving in auto mode all the time. I seem unable to enjoy the flippers. And I enjoy the manual much more.
What is a "fact" is that the "S" (with 20") has set a phenomenal time on the Ring.
Porsche is using 20" because technology allows it. And because it looks good.
I am old enough to remember Porsche going to 16" on the turbo for the first time.
The debate among the "die hard's" was very similar. Why don't you 20" haters at least reserve judgement until you had a change of driving a car with 20" ?
And to the OP , your spec looks great ! You'll have one beautiful 911
No need for Sportchrono imo.
As an aside , my 991 will be manual not because I do not like PDK but because I know from experience that I will be driving in auto mode all the time. I seem unable to enjoy the flippers. And I enjoy the manual much more.
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I got a 2011 C4S for that very same reason, by the time you add options might as well upgrade engine for very little change in price.
19 inch wheels are more than enough...maybe even two much if your roads aren't smooth.
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I know 20's will offer a much more harsher ride, but I don't really care, I have to admit that I am going for the looks
I chose 21's in my Cayenne S knowing it wasn't the best choice for an SUV, but it looks beautiful, check my avatar.
The only option I am not 100% sure is PDK, I have a couple of months to decide until my order locks. My heart says "Please give me a 7 speed manual" but my head says "No way! get a PDK".
Thanks for your comments.
I chose 21's in my Cayenne S knowing it wasn't the best choice for an SUV, but it looks beautiful, check my avatar.
The only option I am not 100% sure is PDK, I have a couple of months to decide until my order locks. My heart says "Please give me a 7 speed manual" but my head says "No way! get a PDK".
Thanks for your comments.
#26
Galion, you did understand when MJones posted in your other thread that the Manual Option is not available on the 991 until March of 2012, right? So we are in early September now & the earliest a March production allocation locks will be (approx) in mid to late January of 2012 . If your allocation comes up prior to that, you have no choice but PDK. When have you been told by your dealer that he has an allocation for you and by what date it may 'lock'? z356
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I know 20's will offer a much more harsher ride, but I don't really care, I have to admit that I am going for the looks
I chose 21's in my Cayenne S knowing it wasn't the best choice for an SUV, but it looks beautiful, check my avatar.
The only option I am not 100% sure is PDK, I have a couple of months to decide until my order locks. My heart says "Please give me a 7 speed manual" but my head says "No way! get a PDK".
Thanks for your comments.
I chose 21's in my Cayenne S knowing it wasn't the best choice for an SUV, but it looks beautiful, check my avatar.
The only option I am not 100% sure is PDK, I have a couple of months to decide until my order locks. My heart says "Please give me a 7 speed manual" but my head says "No way! get a PDK".
Thanks for your comments.
Go DRIVE a Manual vs. PDK... I was just driving my sister's car with 6-speed paddle shifter the other day and I TOTALLY missed my manual feel.
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I am not an avid observer and I never care for the size of the brake calipers in a car, If they werent red or yellow I would hardly notice them (Thats the color 18yr olds paint their calipers here), I prefer a less flashy silver or black.
Having said that I would care more for the diameter of the disc brakes, STD perforated disc brakes are nice and the Carrera have big ones.
Definetely Calipers are not one of the first things I appreciate in a car when I look at it.
But you may be right, I will dig a little bit more on this.
My order locks in early December for January/12 build, arriving late February but cannot be delivered until March 12, after the official presentation in our market.
And yes, I can have a 7 speed by that date. Thats what I've been told a few minutes ago when I called the sales guy, maybe just in EU/Latin America
If that wasnt the case, I can wait a bit more in order to get what I really want.
IMHO it looks good!!
Having said that I would care more for the diameter of the disc brakes, STD perforated disc brakes are nice and the Carrera have big ones.
Definetely Calipers are not one of the first things I appreciate in a car when I look at it.
But you may be right, I will dig a little bit more on this.
My order locks in early December for January/12 build, arriving late February but cannot be delivered until March 12, after the official presentation in our market.
And yes, I can have a 7 speed by that date. Thats what I've been told a few minutes ago when I called the sales guy, maybe just in EU/Latin America
If that wasnt the case, I can wait a bit more in order to get what I really want.
IMHO it looks good!!
Last edited by Galion; 05-07-2012 at 11:44 PM.
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