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Old 07-10-2024, 03:54 AM
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Default GTS or Carrera T.....

Take your pick. Anyone gone from a GTS to a T? I currently have a manual GTS, love the car. Actually had a silver T before this and had swapped cars a few times. I know many people think the T is a parts bin special, but wondering if the T is more "pure" and potentially more collectible down the road. My GTS is full leather, manual, glass roof, FAL. The T would be a manual, no full leather, slick top, with PCCB and sofa's. Pretty minimal spec, but the manual, slick top and PCCB is alluring. Convince me or talk me back from the ledge.
Old 07-10-2024, 09:28 AM
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IT really depends whats your looking for. The GTS really is the do it all car in the Line up. For me, its all on Spec. My T has all the right "enthusiast" spec options with the LWB. If I came across a GTS with similar options, 7mt, I would make the switch, The bigger turbos, SD pieces, and most importantly, the Wide body sells it to me

Base - T - S - GTS doesn't so much matter to me as Im going to modify them all. It all comes down to the spec
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More collectible? First, WTF do you care? These aren't investments, the bland S&P 500 is up 320% since the 991 launched. Please point me to the $320k 991. :-D (Limited edition Ferrari's don't keep up with the S&P 500, Carrera 911s have no chance.)

Pick what you love driving and enjoy the car. Or buy a Miata (nothing wrong with that!) and VOO and enjoy having more money in 10 years.
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Old 07-10-2024, 11:24 AM
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Old 07-10-2024, 11:38 AM
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Both mass produced; neither will be particularly collectable compared to the plethora of low-production "special editions" that Porsche produces.

That being said, they are both great cars but with different purposes and price points.
Old 07-10-2024, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TiptonInAustin
More collectible? First, WTF do you care? These aren't investments, the bland S&P 500 is up 320% since the 991 launched. Please point me to the $320k 991. :-D (Limited edition Ferrari's don't keep up with the S&P 500, Carrera 911s have no chance.)

Pick what you love driving and enjoy the car. Or buy a Miata (nothing wrong with that!) and VOO and enjoy having more money in 10 years.
Absolutely! The only way to justify the purchase of a fine car is to enjoy driving it without worry of it's value to the next owner. Cars are not investments, they are generally depreciating assets and frankly the more they are driven and enjoyed the faster they depreciate. Drive mine daily, without regard to its value for anyone else in the future. Invest in passive income investments, buy the Porsche you like, take care of it to get the most pleasure out of it, and drive it everywhere. In the end it works out to be the best cost per mile driven scenario possible. Amortizing the purchase price and related ownership expenses, over the longest period of time and number of miles driven, lowers the cost per mile/years better than any attempt to preserve resale. In the end a car basically comes down to cost per mile/time. Nicer ones tend to, but not necessarily cost more to travel in. The entry fee and operational costs are higher and typically commensurate with the overall experience. In the end you get what you pay for.
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Old 07-10-2024, 02:31 PM
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Sorry I wasn’t referring to collectible down the road as an investment or which will be worth more. More so, which will be more desirable to drive over time. The lightweight narrow body T or the do it all wide body GTS. My comment had nothing to do with retaining value.
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I prefer the narrow body of the T and I love the way it drives. For mine, I did add a tune so I'm almost at GTS levels of power. It's more than enough in the T. Mine is 7MT, slick top and buckets. I personally wouldn't trade to a GTS but that's just me. Drive what you want.
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I own a Carrera T but I'd be hard pressed to find a convincing reason to switch from a 991.2 GTS to a 991.2 T, all other things being equal. Especially if you are not going to make money on that deal.

If I owned neither and had to pick one to buy, I'd choose the T because the specs are a better fit for me personally and it would probably be cheaper. I don't believe that the T has some special sauce that makes it better to drive than a similarly equipped GTS.

The collectability ship sailed on the T when they introduced the Macan T, Cayman T and 992 T.
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Optioned appropriately/similarly, I just see a GTS as a widebody and more powerful T. Or the T as smaller, lower power, and cheaper GTS. I don't see any reason to swap a GTS for a T. Or vice versa.
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Default T gets no brakes

To me the S or GTS is far superior to the T. Stopping matters.
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Originally Posted by Bud Taylor
To me the S or GTS is far superior to the T. Stopping matters.
My T has 410mm front brakes

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Originally Posted by Hurricane
Both mass produced; neither will be particularly collectable compared to the plethora of low-production "special editions" that Porsche produces.
Not that I think a T is a collectible but I am pretty sure they made less T than S/T or S/C, def way less than GT3 or RS...

Also historically it’s seemed to me that cars with the most performance options or unique factory options seem to hold up price wise over time…

~850 cars, 2RS glass, GT4 shifter, 3RS door cards, GT seats, GT mirrors, rear seat delete, no sound deadening, fire extinguisher, and the grey wheels/engine grill/mirrors/decals are unique to the T vs other model Carrera… it’s a bit like a Carrera Type R to me, and since I’m still scorned about never getting that DC2 Type R 25 years ago…

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Sorry but T= Collectable= LOL
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I see no reason to switch. I do think they will both be desirable with the right spec in the future, the T a bit more desirable to the purists. Desirable being easier to sell for less of a loss compared to other models-not that they will increase in value. For example, I can probably sell my T with triple the miles I purchased it with 5 years ago for similar money I paid for it. Looking at the prices for base or even some S carerras today, it looks like it would be about a 20k delta.
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