CPO ed cars
#1
Three Wheelin'
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CPO ed cars
I have been looking at 991's and i'm leaning toward buying a CPO car from a Porsche dealer
The dealer cars seem to be priced not that more than private sellers are asking (what they are actually selling them for is another story)
My question is...How much "faith" can you put into a dealer selling a CPO car...How fussy are they with the cars they CPO?
The dealer cars seem to be priced not that more than private sellers are asking (what they are actually selling them for is another story)
My question is...How much "faith" can you put into a dealer selling a CPO car...How fussy are they with the cars they CPO?
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I just bought one with 49k miles. The checklist is mostly super basic **** “seatbelts are safe. Headlight light” but they do have minimums for tires and brakes which is nice, and I have 2 years of peace of mind about major problems.
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One thing to pay attention to is the end date of the CPO period.
When I bought my '15 991.1 GTS in 2019, the business manager at Hendrick Charlotte that walked me through all the paper work indicated that the CPO period ended a few months shy of two years. I said wait a tick, CPO is two years. Apparently they had CPO'd the car when it was first placed on sale a few months before I decided to purchase, and that starts the clock. My response was, nope, I was buying a CPO car which as far as I am aware has a full two year warranty from the day of purchase.
To their credit and to remedy the situation, they brought the car into the service bay and did another full CPO inspection, oil change, battery change in the remotes...the whole thing. They then re-filed the paperwork with Porsche, which re-started the clock, but it also cost the dealer several grand which is what Porsche charges a dealer for CPO. The business manager commented that this will be a teaching moment for my salesman, who should have made the reduced CPO period clear. I don't know if this is common or not, but pay attention when doing your paperwork. It was only a few months difference, but imagine having a costly issue at the end of the CPO term and only then found out that you were shorted a few months of coverage.
When I bought my '15 991.1 GTS in 2019, the business manager at Hendrick Charlotte that walked me through all the paper work indicated that the CPO period ended a few months shy of two years. I said wait a tick, CPO is two years. Apparently they had CPO'd the car when it was first placed on sale a few months before I decided to purchase, and that starts the clock. My response was, nope, I was buying a CPO car which as far as I am aware has a full two year warranty from the day of purchase.
To their credit and to remedy the situation, they brought the car into the service bay and did another full CPO inspection, oil change, battery change in the remotes...the whole thing. They then re-filed the paperwork with Porsche, which re-started the clock, but it also cost the dealer several grand which is what Porsche charges a dealer for CPO. The business manager commented that this will be a teaching moment for my salesman, who should have made the reduced CPO period clear. I don't know if this is common or not, but pay attention when doing your paperwork. It was only a few months difference, but imagine having a costly issue at the end of the CPO term and only then found out that you were shorted a few months of coverage.
Last edited by BGLeduc; 05-02-2023 at 10:52 AM.
#4
Instructor
Also keep in mind that CPO does not address cosmetics (including rattles, etc.) and these are not covered by the warranty. The degree of cosmetic reconditioning that a dealer does is seemingly all over the map. Make sure that these sorts of things have been taken care of before you buy the car.
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One thing to pay attention to is the end date of the CPO period.
When I bought my '15 991.1 GTS in 2019, the business manager at Hendrick Charlotte that walked me through all the paper work indicated that the CPO period ended a few months shy of two years. I said wait a tick, CPO is two years. Apparently they had CPO'd the car when it was first placed on sale a few months before I decided to purchase, and that starts the clock. My response was, nope, I was buying a CPO car which as far as I am aware has a full two year warranty from the day of purchase.
To their credit and to remedy the situation, they brought the car into the service bay and did another full CPO inspection, oil change, battery change in the remotes...the whole thing. They then re-filed the paperwork with Porsche, which re-started the clock, but it also cost the dealer several grand which is what Porsche charges a dealer for CPO. The business manager commented that this will be a teaching moment for my salesman, who should have made the reduced CPO period clear. I don't know if this is common or not, but pay attention when doing your paperwork. It was only a few months difference, but imagine having a costly issue at the end of the CPO term and only then found out that you were shorted a few months of coverage.
When I bought my '15 991.1 GTS in 2019, the business manager at Hendrick Charlotte that walked me through all the paper work indicated that the CPO period ended a few months shy of two years. I said wait a tick, CPO is two years. Apparently they had CPO'd the car when it was first placed on sale a few months before I decided to purchase, and that starts the clock. My response was, nope, I was buying a CPO car which as far as I am aware has a full two year warranty from the day of purchase.
To their credit and to remedy the situation, they brought the car into the service bay and did another full CPO inspection, oil change, battery change in the remotes...the whole thing. They then re-filed the paperwork with Porsche, which re-started the clock, but it also cost the dealer several grand which is what Porsche charges a dealer for CPO. The business manager commented that this will be a teaching moment for my salesman, who should have made the reduced CPO period clear. I don't know if this is common or not, but pay attention when doing your paperwork. It was only a few months difference, but imagine having a costly issue at the end of the CPO term and only then found out that you were shorted a few months of coverage.
2 Years / Unlimited Miles Warranty after the expiration of the new vehicle limited warranty or from the date of sale if the new vehicle limited warranty has expired.
https://finder.porsche.com/us/en-US/certified-preowned
#6
One thing to pay attention to is the end date of the CPO period.
When I bought my '15 991.1 GTS in 2019, the business manager at Hendrick Charlotte that walked me through all the paper work indicated that the CPO period ended a few months shy of two years. I said wait a tick, CPO is two years. Apparently they had CPO'd the car when it was first placed on sale a few months before I decided to purchase, and that starts the clock. My response was, nope, I was buying a CPO car which as far as I am aware has a full two year warranty from the day of purchase.
To their credit and to remedy the situation, they brought the car into the service bay and did another full CPO inspection, oil change, battery change in the remotes...the whole thing. They then re-filed the paperwork with Porsche, which re-started the clock, but it also cost the dealer several grand which is what Porsche charges a dealer for CPO. The business manager commented that this will be a teaching moment for my salesman, who should have made the reduced CPO period clear. I don't know if this is common or not, but pay attention when doing your paperwork. It was only a few months difference, but imagine having a costly issue at the end of the CPO term and only then found out that you were shorted a few months of coverage.
When I bought my '15 991.1 GTS in 2019, the business manager at Hendrick Charlotte that walked me through all the paper work indicated that the CPO period ended a few months shy of two years. I said wait a tick, CPO is two years. Apparently they had CPO'd the car when it was first placed on sale a few months before I decided to purchase, and that starts the clock. My response was, nope, I was buying a CPO car which as far as I am aware has a full two year warranty from the day of purchase.
To their credit and to remedy the situation, they brought the car into the service bay and did another full CPO inspection, oil change, battery change in the remotes...the whole thing. They then re-filed the paperwork with Porsche, which re-started the clock, but it also cost the dealer several grand which is what Porsche charges a dealer for CPO. The business manager commented that this will be a teaching moment for my salesman, who should have made the reduced CPO period clear. I don't know if this is common or not, but pay attention when doing your paperwork. It was only a few months difference, but imagine having a costly issue at the end of the CPO term and only then found out that you were shorted a few months of coverage.
#7
The only advantage I see to CPO is all maintenance must be up to date. So if you have a 4 year old 911 with 18K miles the dealer is required to replace plugs, filters as it is older than 4 years even though it doesn't have 40K miles. Two cars priced the same I would go CPO if one was $2.5K or more cheaper go without CPO.
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my car is CPO, 2017 C2. the 2 year clock started when I gave them the cheque last July. obviously it doesn't cover everything but it does cover the important parts. only had 15k miles on it but the time schedule for maintenance also had to be honoured. they put on new tires, oil/filter and brake flush. I just replaced the original battery out of caution, 7 years old. next up is oil change in a few months and then the next big service will be in a year or so, likely including air filter and plugs, so far brakes are good. pay to play. laying out this amount of cash was made easier with the peace of mind that if the engine blows or the pdk seizes I'm covered.
#9
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The only advantage I see to CPO is all maintenance must be up to date. So if you have a 4 year old 911 with 18K miles the dealer is required to replace plugs, filters as it is older than 4 years even though it doesn't have 40K miles. Two cars priced the same I would go CPO if one was $2.5K or more cheaper go without CPO.
#10
Race Car
Also keep in mind that CPO does not address cosmetics (including rattles, etc.) and these are not covered by the warranty. The degree of cosmetic reconditioning that a dealer does is seemingly all over the map. Make sure that these sorts of things have been taken care of before you buy the car.
Here is the thread. I guess paintwork can still qualify for a CPO.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1346...purchased.html
Mike
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#11
Up to 3 panels can be destroyed replaced under cpo
Painting a bumper would not bother me but a wreck is a problem. Independent PPI always.
True. Just went through trying to purchase a CPO car and the dealer revealed that the front and rear bumper had been repainted. This car is a CPO and still for sale, they emailed me last night about a price drop. As they say practice due diligence.
Here is the thread. I guess paintwork can still qualify for a CPO.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1346...purchased.html
Mike
Here is the thread. I guess paintwork can still qualify for a CPO.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1346...purchased.html
Mike
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I purchased 2 CPO Porsches, a Macan S and a 991 S. Received the "gift" kit with CPO cards. No dates are shown.
Does Porsche notify you in advance prior to the CPO expiration date?
Does Porsche notify you in advance prior to the CPO expiration date?
#13
Burning Brakes
One thing to pay attention to is the end date of the CPO period.
When I bought my '15 991.1 GTS in 2019, the business manager at Hendrick Charlotte that walked me through all the paper work indicated that the CPO period ended a few months shy of two years. I said wait a tick, CPO is two years. Apparently they had CPO'd the car when it was first placed on sale a few months before I decided to purchase, and that starts the clock. My response was, nope, I was buying a CPO car which as far as I am aware has a full two year warranty from the day of purchase.
To their credit and to remedy the situation, they brought the car into the service bay and did another full CPO inspection, oil change, battery change in the remotes...the whole thing. They then re-filed the paperwork with Porsche, which re-started the clock, but it also cost the dealer several grand which is what Porsche charges a dealer for CPO. The business manager commented that this will be a teaching moment for my salesman, who should have made the reduced CPO period clear. I don't know if this is common or not, but pay attention when doing your paperwork. It was only a few months difference, but imagine having a costly issue at the end of the CPO term and only then found out that you were shorted a few months of coverage.
When I bought my '15 991.1 GTS in 2019, the business manager at Hendrick Charlotte that walked me through all the paper work indicated that the CPO period ended a few months shy of two years. I said wait a tick, CPO is two years. Apparently they had CPO'd the car when it was first placed on sale a few months before I decided to purchase, and that starts the clock. My response was, nope, I was buying a CPO car which as far as I am aware has a full two year warranty from the day of purchase.
To their credit and to remedy the situation, they brought the car into the service bay and did another full CPO inspection, oil change, battery change in the remotes...the whole thing. They then re-filed the paperwork with Porsche, which re-started the clock, but it also cost the dealer several grand which is what Porsche charges a dealer for CPO. The business manager commented that this will be a teaching moment for my salesman, who should have made the reduced CPO period clear. I don't know if this is common or not, but pay attention when doing your paperwork. It was only a few months difference, but imagine having a costly issue at the end of the CPO term and only then found out that you were shorted a few months of coverage.
Last edited by dgoldenz; 05-03-2023 at 10:37 AM.
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Also keep in mind that CPO does not address cosmetics (including rattles, etc.) and these are not covered by the warranty. The degree of cosmetic reconditioning that a dealer does is seemingly all over the map. Make sure that these sorts of things have been taken care of before you buy the car.
Last edited by bds; 05-04-2023 at 01:33 PM.
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My CPO period started from the date of sale.
I'm certain the sport design front bumper and duck tail were added by the P.O., probably to repair some (reported) damage.
It had been traded in with fresh brakes all around, but not OEM parts. The dealer had to do all new pads and rotors. My extra wheels and winter tires were specifically included "as is". They also had to do the full 40k (60k km up here) service.
It's possible they made a mistake advertising the car as CPO before they looked at it closely enough, because after I made my offer, they changed the ad to just "pre-owned".
When I confirmed I would take it they still honoured everything in the ad and did all the work, but they were less flexible when considering my lower offer. I think they just changed the ad in case I backed out. .
I'm certain the sport design front bumper and duck tail were added by the P.O., probably to repair some (reported) damage.
It had been traded in with fresh brakes all around, but not OEM parts. The dealer had to do all new pads and rotors. My extra wheels and winter tires were specifically included "as is". They also had to do the full 40k (60k km up here) service.
It's possible they made a mistake advertising the car as CPO before they looked at it closely enough, because after I made my offer, they changed the ad to just "pre-owned".
When I confirmed I would take it they still honoured everything in the ad and did all the work, but they were less flexible when considering my lower offer. I think they just changed the ad in case I backed out. .