My regret was not buying a 458 when they were 140-150

 

Same here. We have some great roads to really open up the NA of the 991.1 where I live...but sadly they are not to be had on my regular commute. .2 is perfect for me...and still tons of fun on on-ramps and off-ramps.

 

991.2 is unarguably better. And be sure to get GT Silver because it's the fastest color.

 

If you are looking for "GT-light" driving experience with a more supple chassis, less noise and back seats, the 991.1 GTS is that car. To me, the GTS lost some of its distinctiveness when the Carreras all went turbocharged. It used to be the most powerful NA engine you could get in a 911 outside of the GT cars. Now, it is turbocharged and yes, it is the most powerful turbocharged engine in the Carrera lineup but it is not the most powerful turbocharged 911. Almost all sports cars these days are turbocharged. The NA engine was the heart and soul of the 911 from its inception in 1964. I, for one, prefer the NA engine and would not buy a turbocharged 911 in any flavor. The 991.1 GTS is PLENTY fast for my needs. We are lucky to be able to drive these cars and we are lucky to have so many great options to choose from.

 

911 owners come in 2 flavors...

One who always looked at 911 Turbo S as the ultimate 911, for them the change over to Non-N/A engine was like homecoming

2nd, those who always (and still) considered GT3/GT3 RS/911 R as the ultimate 911.. for them 991.1 GTS is the last car to have before they can get their hand on a GT3/GT3 RS

Two very different owners and very different cars. Market clearly shows us that the first kind of buyers out number the second kind by 5:1 if not 10:1

Every brand is now almost entirely turbo or Electric or hybrid (even supercars) . N/A Sports cars are becoming unicorns and will soon be all gone (hopefully Porsche will continue to make the Ultimate 911, the GT3 for a while)

 

Same, I had a deposit on one but ultimately decided on a 911. Similar FOMO with a 997.2 GT3RS I was going to buy.

The idea that the 991.2 GTS is "unarguably better" than the 991.1 GTS is pretty silly b/c it depends on the criteria that you use. By that logic the 991.2 GTS is also unarguably better than a Carrera GT. And unarguably better than air-cooled cars.

The reality is they're very different. If your metric is infotainment and torque at low RPM (or the best car for DD) then obviously a modern turbo based car is going to be superior. It's also going to be faster on a track. But when it comes to the emotional part of driving it's much more subjective. The reality is there's quite a demand for .1 GTS' because they're frankly really fun cars. They're the last of their kind (a naturally aspirated 911 for the street).

Having spent quite a bit of time behind the wheel of both 991.2's and my current 991.1 GTS they're completely different cars. It's analogous to the switch to FI in the F80 M3 vs the E92 from a NA V8.

 

My e90 M3 was the last real M3 in my eyes…miss that amazing V8 but love the 3.8 in the 911 as well

 

I would have upgraded our boat or paid down the house if a turbocharged automatic was the only 911 offering. I don’t expect to win a drag race against a Muskmobile or Taycan. But, I’d gladly have lunch waiting for either of them if they wanted to race from Seattle to Spokane. To each their own.

 

You can add a 3rd because I like all the flavors, just like the women

 

Good friend just sold his black/black 458 spider. Bought for 165 sold for 225!

 

When last of the 991.1 NA were still available, I rushed out and bought it. BUT it felt like a long time before getting
it into power range so traded for a 991.2 with RAS. It was an expensive trade, but the right pedal makes it go NOW,
and the RAS makes it turn NOW.

 

When last of the 991.1 NA were still available, I rushed out and bought it. BUT it felt like a long time before getting
it into power range so traded for a 991.2 with RAS. It was an expensive trade, but the right pedal makes it go NOW,
and the RAS makes it turn NOW.

 

Ya, 991.1 has NA but overall handling and fun wise wise , shoudn’t a 991.2 with RAS handle better and sport response give you the shove ?

 

If I was living in Aspen or Park city or somewhere in the mountains I’d want to turbocharge car, just because normally aspirated cars lose between 3% and 3.5% of their horsepower for every 1,000 feet of elevation gain, so it can make a big difference in the mountains.

I don’t like Alcantara or all-wheel-drive (it also cuts down on the frunk space, they drive differently, more expensive maintenance/moving parts ).

Just create a pro and con list for each car …
You like Alcantara …
Do you live at sea level or in the mountains?
Do you need all wheel Drive?
The normally aspirated cars sound better, especially with sport exhaust.
The cars do look slightly different.
The newer car has better tech, (although I do know several people who have never turned their stereo on or use any kind of Bluetooth or any other stuff in their new car)
The newer car has significantly more options, including options that matter (RW steering, etc)
‘Does an extra 20 grand matter in the scheme of things?

 

Yes, the .2 accelerates faster due to the turbos than the .1 and the .2 also with RAS tightens the turning circle