992carreraS

Here is my list of P Cars owned and traded

2014 Cayman Base; traded in for,
2017 custom ordered Macan S; traded in for,
2017 Macan GTS; traded in for,
2020 custom ordered 992 C2S; TRADED in for, (9 months ownership)
2018 used 991.2 C2S, traded in for,(3 months ownership)
2019 leftover new 991.2 C4S, my final 911. It's scaled correctly, uses better interior materials, not as fast as 992, but I can control everything with buttons, as opposed to screens. It also has zero rattles.

I hope they got the 992 screwed together better, and have worked through the recalls; software updates. All I know is, my 991.2 is a sports car that brings a smile to my face each time i drive it. And if I had the garage space, I'd add a 2007 997 and a 1996 993 if I could. Also great 911's for different reasons. But the 992; it's a 2 door Panamera in my opinion. just not for me.

ChrisF

I keyed into the OP's comment of I drove the 992 and I'm not sure how I feel. That alone should make you think twice. Can't say I've ever driven a car that I was ambivalent to at first and then I liked it more later. If you don't love it straight away, I'd keep your 991.

I spent a fair amount of time testing the 992S on roads I knew along side my 991. At the end of the day, for me, I was not convinced it was the better car. I hated the interior and the ergonomics and could not get past that.

Drive the 992 again if you can and then decide.

BSO

Have driven the 991.2 (GTS and Turbo), Cayman and the 992 Carrera S at the Porsche PTX. All very capable.

Own an ordered late production 991.2 C4S. Very happy with it and not going to trade or sell.

The 992 has various features that aren’t appealing and needlessly complex (examples, door handles and shift control). Plus it’s a new model that needs shaking down.

My only regret was not ordering a 991.2 Turbo, but was held back by the lack of a manual.

All boils down to personal preferences.

manifold danger

Thanks for humoring me. It's the "think" part that I most disagree with...



Regret is, by literal definition, an abstract concept. You can't put it in a box, point at it, talk to it, physically do it; it's abstract.

As such, it is, actually, impossible to predict if someone will feel an abstract concept such as regret. Words people choose can offer clues, but we've all said many things we later wondered what made us think that way, and had no real explanation for it.

This is really actually intriguing to me, because with enough data- could you predict such a thing? Like, if we had access to all the MEASURABLE things, like what words someone chose on a forum post asking a direct question about something they're trying to determine if they would regret- could we effectively predict if they would or not?

This actually goes down a rabbit hole that I've been considering deeply investigating, psycholinguistics. My career has taken me down a comp-sci path, but I've always been super interested in psychology... this kind of combines both, and has some really interesting real-world implications...

In any case, the psychology of asking a question of if a 991 is better than a 992 in a 991 forum should be pretty easy to figure out, and there's tons of evidence in this thread. I'm sure there are tons of examples already over there... find a couple other data sources, social media should have plenty of those, but oh man it would be great to add things like web activity (websites visited, how long someone lingers on a site e.g., spending hours playing around with a configurator, etc....), then just need a way to extract and compile all the data and build an algorithm...

But you seem to have all this figured out already? That is genuinely impressive.

981KMAN

The measurable item is the OP stating: "The price difference is about $65k..." That in itself makes the decision to stay with the 991.1.

If you need piece of mind with a Warranty, spend $3.5K on a Fidelity and keep the other $61.5K in your pocket. Then after enjoying your 991.1 for a few more years,
and all these crazy supply issues calm down, revisit your options.

driven991.1

I wonder the same - I'd like to stretch the bank and get it, but as little as I drive it a few 1000 miles a year, I dont see the value in a 992 dust collector. Once my investments come back to 2021 or Jan 2022 levels I may go for it. I liked my 993, 996,997 and for the past 6 years 991. Will get into a 992 one day but for now, its a hard no.

RP4S911

At some point there was a discussion if one should trade in their 993 for the 996. There will always be a newer 911, always, and that will never end. 991.1 is the last of the true NA motor 911 Base/S/GTS. I bet a lot of people regret now getting rid of their "last of the aircooled" Pcar for the fried egg disaster ...but it was newer though.

Just my opinion. 992 does look good from behind.

Highyo

as petty as this sounds, if the non GT 911s were offered with the PDK stalk they have (as opposed to the electric razor that, correct me if i am wrong, does not even have a shifting function) i would consider one. it's an absolute non starter to have paddles on a wheel and no other way to shift for me.

i will die on this hill

981KMAN

I've seen the 2022 GT3 Touring with the PDK transmission "stalk" that looks just like a manual transmission "shifter", leather boot and all. I had to look closely to see that the shift pattern on the Stick was that of a PDK and not a manual transmission. Maybe this will carry over to the non GT cars in 2023?

drdantheman1

The reason for the PDK gear shift lever in GT 992 cars is because the transmission is a slightly massaged carryover from the 991.2 GT cars, which still uses a mechanic linkage for the PDK box. The 992 non-GT cars with the razor shifter have the 8sp PDK which uses no mechanic shift linkage.

evio

How did u like the Gt3 touring?

991.1 Guy

I went from 991.1 GTS to a 992 S and wish I hadn't. The 992 is faster, more technically advanced but soulless and the build quality is sub par. This is just my experience YRMV.

Porsche911GTS'16

This very well may be true but AP has also noted in interviews that he likes being able to shift gears in the PDK car with the gear shifter.

I will be very surprised if the nubbin is not replaced with a functional gear shifter in the 992.2 Carrera.

evio

Quick question for you mr 911.1 guy , I am thinking of switching from a 911.2 targa to a 992 targa gts. Sounds like from you experience owning both that you would not. Is that correct.? Thanks

flsupraguy

I wouldnt trade my 991.1 gts for a brand new 992 gts.....