View Poll Results: GTS or S
2015 GTS
53
52.48%
2017 S
48
47.52%
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GTS or newer S?
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07-12-2020, 10:58 PM
#32
Burning Brakes
The cars are so different that it should be easy to decide for you based on how each one drives. For me it was NA MT GTS no question, but it's your preference to rule.
07-13-2020, 12:17 AM
#33
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"Old and dated" does not necessarily equate to worthless. There are many "old and dated" things that are valuable, including the 991.1 GTS.
The 991.1 GTS is the naturally aspirated 911 Carrera with the most horsepower of any non-GTS 911 ever.
If you want a car with a turbocharged engine, you have tons of options, Porsche and otherwise. Porsche maintained the NA engine (non-GT cars) from 1964 until 2016. Sure, the 2017 S is a great car but all Carreras going forward will be turbocharged. The 991.1 GTS is the last of its kind. If you want an NA engine in a 911, you now have one option - a GT car. Not a bad option, but not necessarily what many are looking for in a car. Having both a 991.1 GTS cab and a 991.2 GT3 Touring, I can say with much behind-the-wheel experience that both cars are amazing for their own reasons, and that the GTS makes a lot more sense for the average driver who is looking more for a daily driver and less for a track weapon.
The 991.1 GTS is the naturally aspirated 911 Carrera with the most horsepower of any non-GTS 911 ever.
If you want a car with a turbocharged engine, you have tons of options, Porsche and otherwise. Porsche maintained the NA engine (non-GT cars) from 1964 until 2016. Sure, the 2017 S is a great car but all Carreras going forward will be turbocharged. The 991.1 GTS is the last of its kind. If you want an NA engine in a 911, you now have one option - a GT car. Not a bad option, but not necessarily what many are looking for in a car. Having both a 991.1 GTS cab and a 991.2 GT3 Touring, I can say with much behind-the-wheel experience that both cars are amazing for their own reasons, and that the GTS makes a lot more sense for the average driver who is looking more for a daily driver and less for a track weapon.
The question was between a 991.1 GTS or a 991.2 S, which would you take. In that context, the GTS feels old and dated.
Does that mean it's "worthless"? Maybe, but then that's your word. Not mine.
07-13-2020, 09:41 AM
#35
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I have always been a fan of new tech... have almost always embraced an improvement of any sort, electronics, motorcycles, cars ...you name it, I have jumped on it...
Lets call it what it is... EU forced all manufacturer's hand by enforcing almost impossible to meet emission and MPG standards.. Its not like Porsche spent last 2 decades hoping and wishing one day all cars could be "turbo".. they fought hard, extracted everything they could.. and still to this day are keeping their GTx cars NA for a reason.
My buddy's modified '17 S sounds EXACTLY like his own modified Subaru STI.. (his own words).. he has been a die hard Subaru fan for over a decade and finally jumped on the 991.2 because he gets to have the look of a 911 with the sounds and driving experience (engine wise) of a Subaru.. THAT in its self is ALL I need to know and say about Porsche direction.. There is nothing wrong with a car sounding like a Subaru STI Turbo.. if thats your thing...
the turbo era is attracting 2 kinds of enthusiasts... (IMHO)... those who equate $$$$ spent with expected straight line performance..I can't tell you how many people told me "I would love a 911 but you spend THAT kind of money and all you get is 400 hp?"
and those who like to/have to have the newest models/trims.. a small 3rd segment may be those who like turbo cars and can finally have a tunable "911 turbo" for half of what it used to cost..
just my opinion and thoughts..
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07-13-2020, 03:10 PM
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Update, guys: I ended up getting the C2S. I will explain better the reasons on a dedicated post, where I am going to give my first impressions as well. But in short: I love cabriolets, I loved the color combo and as technology guy, the tech is important (although Porsche non-drive tech is subpar)
07-13-2020, 09:21 PM
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Update, guys: I ended up getting the C2S. I will explain better the reasons on a dedicated post, where I am going to give my first impressions as well. But in short: I love cabriolets, I loved the color combo and as technology guy, the tech is important (although Porsche non-drive tech is subpar)
post pics and details when you can.. enjoy!!!
07-18-2020, 12:38 AM
#38
Racer
Looked at C4S - C2S vs. GTS / 4 GTS, year range 2015 to 2019! It's been a COVID 19 project, from Canada/ON/BC to SF- El Paso, TX, true...
So, value w/ similar performance (20hp less) and costs on non-GTSs- makes for a great value, *only missing is the x51 extra HP. & ALC Pkg (needed?)
Some C2S and C4S (some are great lookers) are over priced due to demand created by the high $$ GTS market...
Some SW mods are available, spend wisely, if needed.
BTW, got a '15 NA 3.8L, MT7, 23k mis, no SR, 4GTS, it took a while. Blk/blk!
It took a while and many miles/phone calls and texts-emails.
So, value w/ similar performance (20hp less) and costs on non-GTSs- makes for a great value, *only missing is the x51 extra HP. & ALC Pkg (needed?)
Some C2S and C4S (some are great lookers) are over priced due to demand created by the high $$ GTS market...
Some SW mods are available, spend wisely, if needed.
BTW, got a '15 NA 3.8L, MT7, 23k mis, no SR, 4GTS, it took a while. Blk/blk!
It took a while and many miles/phone calls and texts-emails.
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