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Old 06-03-2020, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by KOTB
He is not getting emotional. Tesla is not a car brand. Its a brand of software. Their cars suck! Technology is great! Their dealer network and prices suck! Their fit and finish sucks! I cant wait for them to go out of business! This can happen any day while their CEO smokes MJ on air!
At the risk of getting OT, I think you may want to do a bit more research. Tesla is wildly successful worldwide and has diversified both its manufacturing and sales regions so as to be less impacted by things like Covid-19 than many other car companies. Also, Tesla has cutting edge battery, motor and vehicle management technology in both hardware and software which is far more advanced than any of its competitors.

While it is true that some of the fit and finish is not up to the standards of Merc and Porsche, it has improved quite a bit. Teslas are also quite reliable and much less expensive to maintain than conventional vehicles.

I don't think Tesla has anything that competes with 911s yet, but the Model 3 Performance has decisively embarrassed the BMW M3 and AMG C63s in terms of performance at a price $10K to $20K lower.
Old 06-03-2020, 04:46 PM
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What a very strange and uninformed opinion to have and share so freely

I have owned every model they have released except Model Y which I wont even accept as a gift and the Cybertruck, dont even get me started about it ....and the roadster! will likely fall apart at 200 mph! lol
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Originally Posted by Ira Blumberg
At the risk of getting OT, I think you may want to do a bit more research. Tesla is wildly successful worldwide and has diversified both its manufacturing and sales regions so as to be less impacted by things like Covid-19 than many other car companies. Also, Tesla has cutting edge battery, motor and vehicle management technology in both hardware and software which is far more advanced than any of its competitors.

While it is true that some of the fit and finish is not up to the standards of Merc and Porsche, it has improved quite a bit. Teslas are also quite reliable and much less expensive to maintain than conventional vehicles.

I don't think Tesla has anything that competes with 911s yet, but the Model 3 Performance has decisively embarrassed the BMW M3 and AMG C63s in terms of performance at a price $10K to $20K lower.

Yes, if a car is just a way for you to get from Point A to Point B then Tesla may be the car for you! tesla has created fanboys, not enthusiasts!
Old 06-03-2020, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by KOTB
He is not getting emotional. Tesla is not a car brand. Its a brand of software. Their cars suck! Technology is great! Their dealer network and prices suck! Their fit and finish sucks! I cant wait for them to go out of business! This can happen any day while their CEO smokes MJ on air!
you are entitled to your opinion but you are wrong. it IS a car brand. they sell cars. do they suck? millions would disagree with you. you seem like an interesting fella so i'll just wish you a good day lol
Old 06-03-2020, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by omaralt
you are entitled to your opinion but you are wrong. it IS a car brand. they sell cars. do they suck? millions would disagree with you. you seem like an interesting fella so i'll just wish you a good day lol

you dont get sarcasm! but yes, I have to agree that i am an interesting fella! Straight talking people are always interesting!
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Yeah, have a buddy who works in Tesla here in Fremont, when I had my Panamera 4S we put the side of our car by side...... No comparison, the Porsche in Quality, Fit and Finish destroy the Tesla.... the interior of that Model S, doesn't even compare....look cheap and quality not as good nor fit as clean.

Got another buddy who has the Model 3 performance and the Model Y... it's a yawn to me. more like a Honda Accord full electric with all the technology gizmos.
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at 75k I'll buy your GTS 991.2 Coupe LOL
Old 06-03-2020, 06:06 PM
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I was just going to say that - I would also buy it and then resell it. Don’t get defeated. Get them to the table more and get them up another 7-9K and be ready to walk out again when they say no...they will usually call you back as luxury cars are not a priority this very second.
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Goldman Sachs best case scenario is 9% unemployment next year. Luxury used cars are going to be as popular as an **** fissure.
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Goldman Sachs best case scenario is 9% unemployment next year. Luxury used cars are going to be as popular as an **** fissure.
I could be wrong, but I think people purchasing 6-figure vehicles are likely not going to be severely and permanently affected by this. Some will clam up and not splurge, but I don't think demand for our vehicles will fall off a cliff.
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Originally Posted by 0luke1
Goldman Sachs best case scenario is 9% unemployment next year. Luxury used cars are going to be as popular as an **** fissure.
9% unemployment means 91% employed. My Mercedes dealer already has a waiting list for 2021 G550s and G63s allocations and in other areas there are 2 year waiting lists with markups over MSRP on the G63s. And the used ones are selling as fast as they become available.
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Old 06-04-2020, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 0luke1
Goldman Sachs best case scenario is 9% unemployment next year. Luxury used cars are going to be as popular as an **** fissure.
That 9% most likely weren't Porsche buyers anyway.
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As an appliance I am sure Tesla is great.

Speed is just a commodity at this point.

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Originally Posted by Bob Z.
9% unemployment means 91% employed. My Mercedes dealer already has a waiting list for 2021 G550s and G63s allocations and in other areas there are 2 year waiting lists with markups over MSRP on the G63s. And the used ones are selling as fast as they become available.
Labor participation rate was only 63% before covid, it was 67% in 2000 (the drop is primarily due to our aging population). High unemployment on an already low base has a disproportionate effect. It will drag down the rest of the economy. Point is, make your trade-in deal ASAP. We’re going to be able to buy new cars at nice discounts in 12 months and for the next 5 years, but trade-ins will take a hit. For most of us, it doesn’t really matter.

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Originally Posted by infinitest
I could be wrong, but I think people purchasing 6-figure vehicles are likely not going to be severely and permanently affected by this. Some will clam up and not splurge, but I don't think demand for our vehicles will fall off a cliff.
you’ll want to study the economics of shutting down the economy for 3 months. First hit are the low level workers. EVERY large company is prioritizing h2 plans and spends right now. Every public sector entity is doing same once stimulus runs out. Healthcare had been hit hard. Their high margin businesses shut down for months. It is slowing down. The high dollar job cuts are coming. Hope folks have their cash situated. A good time to buy is coming and not a good time to have high leveraged position.

your best Buy offer was yesterday Offers won’t go higher.


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