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Old 02-19-2020, 11:58 AM
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Looking to get into my first porsche. I dont keep my cars very long so resale was important to me. At first I was shopping only for a PDK 4S but was offered this MT C2S ( funny right )
After speaking with friends they all convinced me that a manual C2S will be the best way for me to experience a first porsche.

Now how much would you guys price this at? What do you think of resale c4s pdk vs c2s mt?

2012.5
42 000KMS ( 26 000 miles ) clean title
2 sets of wheels. ( rotiform 21'' + oem 20'' )
PASM
PDCC
Sport Exhaust
Sport Chrono
14 Way Seats
Seat ventilation
Bose Audio
Premium pack
Red Seatbelts
Fire extinguisher

https://vinanalytics.com/car/WP0AB2A94CS122120/

PS im located in montreal canada.



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Somewhere in the 65-ish range (in the US). Nice build.
Old 02-19-2020, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuda911
Somewhere in the 65-ish range (in the US). Nice build.
yes its good a very nice spec. SO 68K usd ( 90K cad ) would not be to far fetched? he knows hes got a perfect rare manual spec.
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Great looking car, buy it and have fun!
Old 02-19-2020, 12:21 PM
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An MT is far more difficult to find, as only about 10% of the 991's were ordered with MT.
It looks like a very nice car and the options listed check all the right boxes. Full leather interior?
Is that a glass roof or did he slap a skin on the top of the car?

As for the resale discussion, I wouldn't even bother getting into it as it is completely subjective.
I presume it's a private sale with some type of service history and an accident-free report.
Where is the car located and what is the seller asking. (Geography does make a difference).
Either way you can't go wrong..
Old 02-19-2020, 12:24 PM
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^ ^
Some questions answered while I was typing
Old 02-19-2020, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by duxsi
An MT is far more difficult to find, as only about 10% of the 991's were ordered with MT.
It looks like a very nice car and the options listed check all the right boxes. Full leather interior?
Is that a glass roof or did he slap a skin on the top of the car?

As for the resale discussion, I wouldn't even bother getting into it as it is completely subjective.
I presume it's a private sale with some type of service history and an accident-free report.
Where is the car located and what is the seller asking. (Geography does make a difference).
Either way you can't go wrong..
the roof has a black wrap. As for the interior hard to tell maybe you can on this picture?
Private sale accident free with maintenance yes.
Car is in montreal canada. Can this car fetch 90k CAD?

EDIT : Owner confirmed full leather interior
Old 02-19-2020, 12:41 PM
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It looks to be a good build and a good option. Can't go wrong with a manual and very hard to find. Them Rotiforms are sweet and compliment that car. 26K miles only is not too shabby. Get a PPI on that just for your own peace of mind, if everything checks out,you really like the car and checks all the options you've been looking for, then price is not the primary factor.
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Not to be a downer, but I would put my money on a 991.2. 2017's can be found 73K and up on auto trader. Maybe not optioned that well, but still. The price parody is close enough for me to want a 2017 991.2 over a first year 991.1.

The 2017 S models seem to start around 80-85K. To me that 20K is worth every penny for a 3yr old car over a 8yr old car. The infotainment alone makes a big difference to me.

Thats just me though. No hate meant!
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Originally Posted by BIGWORM
Not to be a downer, but I would put my money on a 991.2. 2017's can be found 73K and up on auto trader. Maybe not optioned that well, but still. The price parody is close enough for me to want a 2017 991.2 over a first year 991.1.

The 2017 S models seem to start around 80-85K. To me that 20K is worth every penny for a 3yr old car over a 8yr old car. The infotainment alone makes a big difference to me.

Thats just me though. No hate meant!
altough your 991.2 wont be a S and wont have a good spec , it will drop in value quicker. And i prefer NA
Old 02-19-2020, 01:25 PM
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Looks great but it’s standard interior, not full leather interior. Make sure you check the door cards and battery date!
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Old 02-19-2020, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Flalex
altough your 991.2 wont be a S and wont have a good spec , it will drop in value quicker. And i prefer NA
Well Im not so sure it cant be an S for 20kish more. I didnt research it that much. But just looking on autotrader, 2017 911 S are around 80-85K up. They all cant be base 911 S's

And once the 2017 is 8yrs old, Im sure it will fall inline with the price the 8yr old 2012 is today.

And if ones prefers NA, then I would look at a 2016. But again, thats just me. I dont fault anyone for choosing what they want. Im just sharing my opinion that I would not get a 1st model year car when much newer ones are not THAT much more. But if you like what you see and the price works. Then go for it man. I get it.

But if you have not driven both or really seen the infotainment differences. I would highly suggest you try that before making your final call. Thats all man. Good luck with your decision!
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"20kish more" ~ 30%
That's a nice chunk of change for us regular folk.
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I'll be brutally honest.

Please drive the car first. It's in Montreal near you? I'm a manual guy and purchased a new off the dealer floor 2013 C2S, drove a new 2013 manual car at the time as well and that shifter/trans was new to the 991 at the time. It just didn't feel right and even the salesman told me at the time they are still working out the manual on the 991 (the 991 had only been out a few months) at the time. They hadn't even released the Turbo yet.

I went with the PDK begrudgingly at the time but appreciated it after. I agree with most that by the 2016 GTS they finally got it right.

This is just my tiny opinion. Please don't take it religiously. Maybe this car has upgrades or etc.

If it's your first P Car, please just drive it before purchasing it. It may be one of the good ones and you'll love it!

Beautiful car. Everyone loves a Roti Car.
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Old 02-19-2020, 02:06 PM
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I don't think i've every seen a black roof wrap to look like a glass sunroof. Interesting concept.


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