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Old 01-16-2020, 01:56 AM
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Hello everyone, I have only had a 911 since June last year, when I bought my first Porsche, a 2013 991 C2. That car got totaled in October (other driver's fault) so I replaced it with another 2013 991 C2. Due to our parking situation I knew it would be my only car and I live in Seattle which gets all kinds of weather.

So with this being my first winter with the car I was expecting it to be a real pain if we got any snow, and my plan on those days was to just use Uber on snow days or if the snow stuck around for a while I'd get a rental. Well this week we did get snow, very low temperatures, and occasionally ice patches on the roads. Not deep snow but 3-5 inches in places.

I should have just left the 911 in the garage but I decided to try it out, and I was very surprised and impressed. It handled the conditions really well, never got stuck, and I barely had a slide. I was driving fairly gently but the car felt very safe. It wasn't even triggering the ABS very often on braking. On top of this the heated seats and the heater in the car have been very good and very quick to warm up. I'm very, very impressed. The car is on the Bridgestone all-season tires not Summers. It's been much better in these conditions than RWD BMWs I've owned in the past.
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I threw on some Michelin Alpins last year, have driven my tuned 991.2 C2 through a blizzard last year without loosing an oz of confidence. These are phenomenal cars and I use it as my daily driver
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As noted above, a RWD 911 with proper winter tires will do great in snow. Ground clearance is the biggest concern. If you get a foot of snow, leave it in the garage.
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Originally Posted by sr5959
Hello everyone, I have only had a 911 since June last year, when I bought my first Porsche, a 2013 991 C2. That car got totaled in October (other driver's fault) so I replaced it with another 2013 991 C2. Due to our parking situation I knew it would be my only car and I live in Seattle which gets all kinds of weather.

So with this being my first winter with the car I was expecting it to be a real pain if we got any snow, and my plan on those days was to just use Uber on snow days or if the snow stuck around for a while I'd get a rental. Well this week we did get snow, very low temperatures, and occasionally ice patches on the roads. Not deep snow but 3-5 inches in places.

I should have just left the 911 in the garage but I decided to try it out, and I was very surprised and impressed. It handled the conditions really well, never got stuck, and I barely had a slide. I was driving fairly gently but the car felt very safe. It wasn't even triggering the ABS very often on braking. On top of this the heated seats and the heater in the car have been very good and very quick to warm up. I'm very, very impressed. The car is on the Bridgestone all-season tires not Summers. It's been much better in these conditions than RWD BMWs I've owned in the past.
It's great to see the looks of other drivers, no?
What tires are you currently on?
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Originally Posted by Jack F
It's great to see the looks of other drivers, no?
What tires are you currently on?
Yeah. You should see the looks in them when they see a ski rack on a 911.
I am taking my 2013 C2S to Mount Tremblant in Canada for a ski trip. I got Pirelli Sottozeros on all 4. 19 inch. They handle great even at 100+mph.
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Somewhere I have pictures of my Dad taking me skiing when I was little in our '73 911T. We lived in Salt Lake City and would go up to Alta frequently. The 911 was my Dad's only car, and we took it everywhere in the winter even deep snow (with snow tires, of course). A rear engine car with good snows is a great platform for the white stuff!

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I too am in downtown Seattle. The winter conditions on the many hills are no match for the summer tires. Now with winter tires, that's a different matter.

Either way the downtown streets are like driving in a third world country. The amount of potholes, uneven payment and broken concrete that never gets repaired is astounding.
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I would be afraid to take mine out in those conditions just because of the other drivers on the road.
I'm on the eastern side of Washington and we have snow as well. There were 60 wrecks in 4 hours reported. People don't know how to drive when the roads are good, let alone in poor conditions!
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Tires. Tires. Tires. > everything else including AWD.
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Originally Posted by puppycat
I too am in downtown Seattle. The winter conditions on the many hills are no match for the summer tires. Now with winter tires, that's a different matter.

Either way the downtown streets are like driving in a third world country. The amount of potholes, uneven payment and broken concrete that never gets repaired is astounding.
Yes I must admit I would not take the car on those steep hills downtown in these conditions.
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Originally Posted by Jack F
It's great to see the looks of other drivers, no?
What tires are you currently on?
Bridgestone all-seasons. Think these will be pretty good in summer too.

Yes funny to see the looks of other drivers in the snow! Seems Porsche were onto something with this rear-engine idea...
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Originally Posted by garfunkle
Tires. Tires. Tires. > everything else including AWD.
Not surprising that the 911 does well in the winter.

I daily drove my C63 for 2 winters on dedicated winter tires without issues in freezing Canada.

Winter tires made all the difference.

Limiting factor was ground clearance. Anything more than 4 inches of snow I took either the Subaru or the Jeep. I felt much less guilty beating up the front of the Subaru than I did the C63. haha
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Tires play a big role in whether you stay on the road or off in the hedges.

But I have to say the biggest factor is using that gray matter between the ears.

Down here in Middle TN where it rarely snows folks with quite capable vehicles but no sense are a danger to them selfs and others and just need to stay home.

I remember growing up in Western PA and my mother driving her 74 VW Beetle in the snow. There was no stopping her where other cars were off on the side of the road.
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Originally Posted by CSK 911 C4S
Tires play a big role in whether you stay on the road or off in the hedges.

But I have to say the biggest factor is using that gray matter between the ears.

Down here in Middle TN where it rarely snows folks with quite capable vehicles but no sense are a danger to them selfs and others and just need to stay home.

I remember growing up in Western PA and my mother driving her 74 VW Beetle in the snow. There was no stopping her where other cars were off on the side of the road.
Yes, both tires and skill. When I lived in Alaska, even long time residents seemed to forget both for the first month of winter each year.
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The weight on the back helps a ton (almost quite literally).

While I have not braved the snow in my porsches, I did drive a lotus sometimes with rear snows, sometimes with rear all seasons, in snow and even an ice storm and it did great. My 5 series on all seasons was not great in the snow and even my jag with snow tires sucks getting up hills (my GF got it stuck in the driveway).


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