Upgrading my next 911
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Originally Posted by Bob Z.
Have you heard a .2 with high flow cats? It sounds pretty darn good to those of us that have them and your analogy is not accurate. And I am not sure what you mean in your sentence about non-linear acceleration since if you say it is well hidden how can it also very much be there? By the way, high flow cats allow a quicker spool so that is basically a non-issue - have you heard and driven what I am describing? Regardless, I am interested in hearing an unbiased opinion from the OP.
The OP stated warranty that is about to expire and the need to "upgrade." As I, and others have pointed out, that is a solvable problem by buying an extended warranty.
If racing is involved and the need for performance trumps the characteristics of an NA setup, a turbo is absolutely a great next step, at least for a while. Soon the rolling batteries will win it all...in complete silence...pick your poison.
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I should have said sound is subjective to a certain extent but if you get the chance to drive a .2 with high flow cats do so and let us know what you think. On the other hand, I have driven NA Lambos and those sound great with a modified exhaust, much better than the NA Porsches IMO, and they have the torque I need; the NA 3.8 Porsches do not have what I desire and I hope the OP can drive a few and report back since if so he may not be interested in an extended warranty and decide to step up as he said.
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Hard to tell what's driving the upgrade other than warranty...which can be solved by getting an extended one.
Also good to know what your driving needs are (do you track and need the extra performance)?
I'm no fan of the tiny turbo motors in the non-GT 991.2 series (haven't driven a 992 yet).
In the sound department you'd give up the equivalent of a grand piano and settle for a entry level synth.
The non-linear acceleration in a 991.2 is well hidden and almost imperceptible but very much so there.
On the other hand, if you track and need performance gains, the benefits of a turbo would be great.
Best of luck either way.
Also good to know what your driving needs are (do you track and need the extra performance)?
I'm no fan of the tiny turbo motors in the non-GT 991.2 series (haven't driven a 992 yet).
In the sound department you'd give up the equivalent of a grand piano and settle for a entry level synth.
The non-linear acceleration in a 991.2 is well hidden and almost imperceptible but very much so there.
On the other hand, if you track and need performance gains, the benefits of a turbo would be great.
Best of luck either way.
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I should have said sound is subjective to a certain extent but if you get the chance to drive a .2 with high flow cats do so and let us know what you think. On the other hand, I have driven NA Lambos and those sound great with a modified exhaust, much better than the NA Porsches IMO, and they have the torque I need; the NA 3.8 Porsches do not have what I desire and I hope the OP can drive a few and report back since if so he may not be interested in an extended warranty and decide to step up as he said.
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The peak torque on a 991.2 GTS starts at 2400 rpms, not 4000. Most cannot feel any lag, especially with high flow cats.
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You’re right Bob, and after I drove the GTS, I did look up the performance numbers to see when the peak TQ hit and was surprised why I didn’t feel it sooner. This was after driving a T and Cayman GTS(which by the way was a blast, but putting around you can really feel that 4-banger). The T, or base model engine, i really couldn’t feel any lag, it felt very much like a NA car. I think the high flow cats or test pipes would be a perfect add-on for a GTS. I can only imagine how good it would sound too.
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The S is a nice compromise and you will still find a nice one under $90k...looking forward to what you wind up with.