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Old 11-20-2019, 03:17 AM
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I have a 2014 991.1 C2, my first Porsche with sport chrono, sport exhaust and some other good options. I've owned it for two years now and absolutely love owning a 911. The CPO runs out August 2020. I'm considering stepping up to a 911S or maybe even a GTS. I'm looking for some guidance on what should be my next 911. I would like to keep it under $90k.
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Originally Posted by Ken Harding
I have a 2014 991.1 C2, my first Porsche with sport chrono, sport exhaust and some other good options. I've owned it for two years now and absolutely love owning a 911. The CPO runs out August 2020. I'm considering stepping up to a 911S or maybe even a GTS. I'm looking for some guidance on what should be my next 911. I would like to keep it under $90k.
Given your price point, and what you're coming from, I'd suggest taking a hard look at the 991.2 Carrera, or, if you're really lucky and can stretch a bit, a lightly used Carrera T. Plenty of performance, and a wonderful engine with a keen chassis and a lot of nice upgrades—along with performance that's on par with, or better than, a 991.1 Carrera S.

991.1 Carrera to 991.2 Carrera S or (especially) GTS is a serious leap—not that that's a bad thing...but you might be surprised by how much of a leap the 3.4 to the 3.0tt is.
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T, S, GTS

Can't go wrong
Old 11-20-2019, 10:16 AM
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Have you driven the 991.2? If not drive it first to see if you like it since it will be a lot different! A base car may be enough and if so you will have lots of choices under $90k.
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Originally Posted by Bob Z.
Have you driven the 991.2? If not drive it first to see if you like it since it will be a lot different! A base car may be enough and if so you will have lots of choices under $90k.
I agree with this. I was shopping for a 991.1 S/4S, but was more impressed with the 991.2 base, which was newer and in the same price point with CPO. I really like the 3.0tt - you should definitely try it.
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Yes. Upgrade to 991.2 will be good. I was surprised how good the base 911 was. Recommend driving all of them and deciding what is best for you.
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Hard to tell what's driving the upgrade other than warranty...which can be solved by getting an extended one.
Also good to know what your driving needs are (do you track and need the extra performance)?

I'm no fan of the tiny turbo motors in the non-GT 991.2 series (haven't driven a 992 yet).
In the sound department you'd give up the equivalent of a grand piano and settle for a entry level synth.
The non-linear acceleration in a 991.2 is well hidden and almost imperceptible but very much so there.
On the other hand, if you track and need performance gains, the benefits of a turbo would be great.

Best of luck either way.
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Originally Posted by Bemo
Hard to tell what's driving the upgrade other than warranty...which can be solved by getting an extended one.
Also good to know what your driving needs are (do you track and need the extra performance)?

I'm no fan of the tiny turbo motors in the non-GT 991.2 series (haven't driven a 992 yet).
In the sound department you'd give up the equivalent of a grand piano and settle for a entry level synth.
The non-linear acceleration in a 991.2 is well hidden and almost imperceptible but very much so there.
On the other hand, if you track and need performance gains, the benefits of a turbo would be great.

Best of luck either way.
Have you heard a .2 with high flow cats? It sounds pretty darn good to those of us that have them and your analogy is not accurate. And I am not sure what you mean in your sentence about non-linear acceleration since if you say it is well hidden how can it also very much be there? By the way, high flow cats allow a quicker spool so that is basically a non-issue - have you heard and driven what I am describing? Regardless, I am interested in hearing an unbiased opinion from the OP.
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If warranty is the the only thing driving this decision then have you considered going commando or an aftermarket warranty? These cars are pretty robust and any major failure is certainly an outlier.

Lets set the "which is best" discussion side. The answer objectively is ALWAYS the newest version.

For me, I think of these cars as a workstream. The first juncture is daily vs fun ancillary car. If it's a daily then a newer one certainly makes sense for the creature comforts and utilitarian aspect. If it's a toy then have you made some good memories with the car and do you love it or what don't you like about it? Are you one that keeps cars or trades them in every few years? If you keep them and love the car then on a base - headers, TB, plenum and a tune with transform it. Maybe just an exhaust? Maybe something as minor as aluminum ring surrounds for the guages to rekindle the romance?

By the way - the 991.2 owners stopped bragging about the improved infotainment lately They still have a torquier engine but if it's a fun/toy car then how much fun is it to use so much more of the revs all the time? If it's your daily or only then a 3.0tt would make a much more compliant people mover for sure.

This post is just me wrambling and likely won't sway anyone either way but just some things I'd think about other than warranty. For me... I added a 987 and threw the kitchen sink at it in aftermarket for less money than trading in on a new 911 and couldn't be happier owning both.
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911 T. You can get into one for right around $90k. Biased of course.
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911T or GTS. I would probably go with the GTS.
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Also - 991.1 GT3 prices continue to decline
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911T. It’s the smart choice....




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A T, then chip it. Buy a fidelty warranty and never take it to a dealer (it will get flagged). Big HP for the money, drivers car.
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