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Is the mechanical limited slip rear differential something unique to the T or is it also on an S/GTS/GT cars. What is the benefits/drawbacks of it? Thanks guys.
If you have a MT with PTV, then you get an mLSD. If you have a PDK, then you can get PTV Plus with an eLSD. For normal driving, you can definitely feel the PTV for turns, especially decreasing radius ones, as it helps rotate the car around through its angular momentum. When you are driving more aggressively, the LSDs help with traction and laying down your power into and out of corners by adjusting how much torque and power are distributed to each wheel. I'm sure some folks have had an mLSD fail, and it will require some servicing eventually. For the old school, mechanical feel it brings the drive, I am just fine with that. I also have RAS, which is a whole other level of engineering/tech, further enhancing low and high speed turning and cornering by changes to the angle of the rear wheels and couples with the slip angle that the wheels/tires already have.
I owned a 991.2 C2S but traded for 991.2 T. I have driven both cars on the track and daily. For what I can feel is that S is more daily friendly because engine noise is quieter than T since T has less sound proofing material. The road noise from the tires are about the same level. It bothers when I want to make a phone call or listen to the music when the speed catches up. Another reasonI feel S is more suitable for daily maybe because my S was a PDK, my T is manual. Besides that, S and T feels similar on the daily use. Stock S suspension is just 10mm lower unless you opt to sport PASM which is standard on T. On the track, standard T brake is the weak part of the car. The pedal becomes soft very fast and I had to push it deeper and deeper. Even on the street, I felt that I need to push brake pedal a bit harder on T to get the same brake force on the S. But S brake creates more dust and more noisy on the street. The wheel gets dirty faster on the S. On the straightline, for sure, S is faster since it has 50 more hp. If you like the drag race, I strongly recommend to get a S. The T's engine is more responsive but you can feel easily that it is less power than S engine. Getting the T gives you the option to opt some gears that was exclusively on GT cars, such as bucket seats which is a really plus point for choosing the T. For BMW M3, I tested drive once. It was a 2018 M3 with competition package. The seat position is much higher on M3 than 911. This is very important. For sports car, we need to sit low. M3 has the similiar feel on straight line acceleration with the S. But in the corner, porsche goes more beautiful. Porsche's steering gives more feeling to the road. I think M3 is more daily friendly since you sit higher, the cabin is quieter. And stereo is better on M3.
I think the 991 9A2-engined cars are all brilliant, whatever the badge. Factor in price/perfomance value and the right options (add or omit) list, and a case can be made for any of the badges (incl. just plain 'Carrera') as being best, subjectively. Having said that, there are significant differences in performance --though not necessarily what one might expect from reading forums. Relative performance is sometimes better conveyed by graphics than raw numbers or anecdotal evidence.
The following charts are from my 911 images folder, but I found them in this forum in a 'everything about' 991.2 thread (sorry i don't have the link handy). To the creators of these excellent graphs, thanks and please identify yourselves and take credit.
I recall the data on the bar chart comes from Car & Driver acceleration tests (a very good source in my view owing to their rigorous, consistent and transparent testing/reporting).
Not that you buy a 911 for all out speed... but the 911 T is slower than a corvette C8 base.
A 911 S is just as fast as corvettes advertised times in the real world.
so do you mind that a base vet is faster , cheaper than your carrera T if not get it.
also C8 are dual clutch only
Not that you buy a 911 for all out speed... but the 911 T is slower than a corvette C8 base.
A 911 S is just as fast as corvettes advertised times in the real world.
so do you mind that a base vet is faster , cheaper than your carrera T if not get it.
also C8 are dual clutch only
If I cared about 0-60 times I’d be driving a Dodge Hellcat! It’s about the experience, not numbers......
Not that you buy a 911 for all out speed... but the 911 T is slower than a corvette C8 base.
A 911 S is just as fast as corvettes advertised times in the real world.
so do you mind that a base vet is faster , cheaper than your carrera T if not get it.
also C8 are dual clutch only
...Let me see. C8 weighs 500 lbs more than properly optioned T with manual and buckets. T can be easily tuned to over 450 hp. I chose the T.
Everyone cares about 0-60 times and other performance numbers. I know I do. For most 911 owners, it's about the overall package. Blowing someone off the line is fun but at the end of the day, it means little to me. What YOU enjoy is what matters. Some are thoroughly happy in their Dodge, Chevy, Ford, Porsche, etc. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, right?!
Having said that, a PDK T with a proper tune is quicker than a base Vette. If your ego is bigger, why not just buy a 911TTS or a GTR, slap a tune on it and call it a day...that is until a electric motor vehicle comes and blows everyone away. I remember watching a show where a 1970s Toyota Corolla (I think) was putting every super car to shame off the line. Come to find out, it was a heavily modified electric vehicle hooked up to lots of car batteries.
Guys - the performance is insane on either. There is a reason Miatas fly off the lot at nearly 40K all in nowadays and make neat to no power... Like most things Porsche, the cars are greater than the sum of their parts. Porsche has always accomplished more with less. I don't believe anyone can say definitively that one is better. I'd wager that a more useful filter is daily/only vs weekend car. If its a primary car then don't get the T. If it's a toy then get the emotional experience. Before someone debates semantics - yes a base or S is also an emotional experience but the T just has the fun factor turned up a little. Also, If you are driving pretty much any other car as your daily then the T will seem light and very fast in comparison as well as offer a greater dichotomy of variance in experience.
10-04-2019, 02:07 PM
I remember watching a show where a 1970s Toyota Corolla (I think) was putting every super car to shame off the line. Come to find out, it was a heavily modified electric vehicle hooked up to lots of car batteries.
