4 Point 0

COBB are on notice. 4 days until the end of the month. You were the one demanding they deliver stage 2 and PRO-Tune. You have both. Time for you to step aside, and let the rest of the world show you what these things can really do.

No BS excuses about the best gear box on the planet not being able to handle the puny amount of power you have in comparison to what this platform is really capable of. (There is a fair chance that the issue with your car, is just an issue with your car. Sample size N=1)

The end of the month draws near. NO EXCUSES COBB.

PTS-BRG

4 point 0: I am a customer just like you. I have one of the only Pro Tuned cars around. If the PDK is having issues handling "the puny amount of power" my car is putting down, then you can believe that others will also have similar problems. In addition, people like you who will be putting down even more power will undoubtedly have PDK problems.

Why not give Cobb a break and instead of holding their feet to the fire, give them sufficient time to iron out the remaining bugs and release a product that will not cause people problems. I'm sure they don't want to get flooded with calls from owners and tuners complaining that the PDK's aren't able to handle additional power so, let them get it right before you threaten them publicly

They have a legitimate issue now and are actively woking on it and aware of it. Its not like back in July/Aug where they were sitting on their hands with too many product releases and no 991 to test on.
The software is done, Stage 2 is released and now they need to get the final tweaks done to make it bulletproof. No one else is doing it better so, give em a break..

4 Point 0

PTS, No one does an Access port better than COBB. They have the best product. But a custom tune, there are dozens of guys around the globe that can tune far better than COBB. You have a 2 hour custom tune. Whilst I am sure that is a lot better than Stage 2, it pales in comparison to a 6 month refined full custom tune. COBB don't need to do anything with Pro-Tune, other than release it. The custom tuners will spend days/weeks/months refining customer cars. (Those that want to squeeze everything out of it.)

COBB don't need to sort this issue by themself. Half the planet can be working on it. Guys who like to push the envelope will solve this. Turbo S and Exclusive and GT2-RS put down much larger numbers, let alone Stage 4 turbo upgraded Turbo's. We have cars here with over 800 RWHP in their turbo's no PDK issues at all. This is not COBB's problem. Release the Pro-tune, let everyone get on with it. I could have months of development done, before the issue of PDK may even arise. It will be sorted by then. It takes time to refine a tune. Again, that's not on COBB. They need to stand aside and let the specialists play with their toys.

Psorcery

The transmission is the same one from the TT/TTS. It can handle the power.

4 Point 0

Exactly my thoughts. At best they may, or may not, have a software upgrade which is always eventually obtained or duplicated.

sagerdyn

The problem is not the PDK or the PDK software ! The Problem is the TQ that is calculate by the DME and send over CAN to the PDK.
Pressure is setponit is depending on calc engine TQ.
The problem is that bee able to cheat on the TQ cal in the maps to not run in any limiter but when it gets colder outside there is coming another calc of TQ on the point what has no map it is in the code by airmass flow and Rev Ground back calculation. (You can sloe read this in the Data Frame of SDI21.2)

Log the flowing parameters and you will see that you also will have a drop in the Calc Enigine TQ
REV / N_32
Engine TQ / TQ_AV
Engine TQ / TQ_BAS
Engine TQ / TQI_MAX_CAN
Engine TQ / TQI_POW_MAX_TCU_SLOW
Engine TQ / TQI_POW_MAX_TCU_FAST
Engine MAF / MAF_KGH_ENG
PDK KMN / KMN_TRQLIMGEAR
PDK KMN / KMN_TRQLIM
PDK KMN / KMN_FPWSUBST

Log this have a look and you will see!
I bet 100USD on it that when your Clutch perrsure of clutch1 goes done you short after TQ_AV go down.
IF you use the function in Piwis, 2/4 windows ( depends on the amount of Labels you log) Side by Side you can see it better and soom better even when you that have to pages.

sagerdyn

Not relay true internal parts (not talking about the gears about ratio) are little different but most are the same.
And correct PDK can handle more TQ than this Engine can make but only if the TCU knows the real TQ and can adjust the Set point for CLU Press correct.

flsupraguy

and the rs3

PTS-BRG

No one is questioning that the PDK can handle the power, there is no question it can. The pressure in the PDK Clutch needs to be higher.
How the ECU interprets the info and relays it to the PDK is the tricky part that needs to be tweaked.

4 Point 0

This is not an excuse to delay Pro-Tune. This is an easy fix. Its not COBB's problem or issue. Release Pro-tune!

sagerdyn

No it is pretty easy do just not cheat on TQ calc in the tune find all limiter and do some SW switches and the car will go perfect even with no changes on TCU software.
If you want see where is the problem do the log i recommend

sagerdyn

OH i want to see this, it is easy if you know how but who knows...

4 Point 0

The guys I pay to look after my car know. Release Pro-Tuning and let's go!

Have you ever seen the movie ID4? (Independence day? ) Where the alien has hold of the professor and is controlling his vocal chords and you hear him say.....

RELEASE MEEEEE!!!! Release MEEE!!! That is the COBB pro-tune screaming. Release me!

PTS-BRG

4 point 0: Silly question but, if you get a pro tune on your car and invest dozens of hours getting it fine tuned, would someone else with a GTS be able to use your exact tune provided they had the same mods?

Basically, is the Pro Tune "locked" to one car or can it be used by multiple cars of the same model?

4 Point 0

It's not a silly question at all. I will ask my guy when we start. I did ask COBB awhile ago if I could have a copy of your Pro-tune. : ) This was there response.

"Specifically, you guys would both have to have the same ROM id for the map to be 100% plug and play. Otherwise, every table adjustment would need to be copied over by hand from PTS-BRGs map to a map for your ROM id. That's a little bit of a project but not impossible, however, specifically dialed in maps like that can end up running like crap on a different car so there's no guarantee it'll be a wise decision."