How cold is too cold for your 911?
#31
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
My largest concern is that things just break in the cold. No matter how much you try and heat up the oil and engine, it is still a hard start on the engine and takes a while to get warmed up. And some parts of the car never get warmed up.
Can you even put a block heater in a Porsche? I never even looked to see if it could be done. I know an old assistant of mine had a BMW and there wasn't a spot to put one in, so she had to have a contraption added to the side of her radiator to warm and cycle the radiator fluid.
Another issue my co-worker brought up (he has a Jag he just put away for the winter) is all the gravel they spread out here for traction. His #1 concern was taking extra rocks into his windshield and front of the car. I know I spend each spring spot fixing all the paint that gets chipped on the front of my Tundra and the wife's Tahao, and we don't even bother to repair/replace windshields here until they are pretty well shot. I would not want to be doing that to my TTS.
-TJ
PS. Oh, and I didn't intend to start a debate about climate.
Can you even put a block heater in a Porsche? I never even looked to see if it could be done. I know an old assistant of mine had a BMW and there wasn't a spot to put one in, so she had to have a contraption added to the side of her radiator to warm and cycle the radiator fluid.
Another issue my co-worker brought up (he has a Jag he just put away for the winter) is all the gravel they spread out here for traction. His #1 concern was taking extra rocks into his windshield and front of the car. I know I spend each spring spot fixing all the paint that gets chipped on the front of my Tundra and the wife's Tahao, and we don't even bother to repair/replace windshields here until they are pretty well shot. I would not want to be doing that to my TTS.
-TJ
PS. Oh, and I didn't intend to start a debate about climate.
#32
Three Wheelin'
#33
Three Wheelin'
My largest concern is that things just break in the cold. No matter how much you try and heat up the oil and engine, it is still a hard start on the engine and takes a while to get warmed up. And some parts of the car never get warmed up.
Can you even put a block heater in a Porsche? I never even looked to see if it could be done. I know an old assistant of mine had a BMW and there wasn't a spot to put one in, so she had to have a contraption added to the side of her radiator to warm and cycle the radiator fluid.
Another issue my co-worker brought up (he has a Jag he just put away for the winter) is all the gravel they spread out here for traction. His #1 concern was taking extra rocks into his windshield and front of the car. I know I spend each spring spot fixing all the paint that gets chipped on the front of my Tundra and the wife's Tahao, and we don't even bother to repair/replace windshields here until they are pretty well shot. I would not want to be doing that to my TTS.
-TJ
PS. Oh, and I didn't intend to start a debate about climate.
Can you even put a block heater in a Porsche? I never even looked to see if it could be done. I know an old assistant of mine had a BMW and there wasn't a spot to put one in, so she had to have a contraption added to the side of her radiator to warm and cycle the radiator fluid.
Another issue my co-worker brought up (he has a Jag he just put away for the winter) is all the gravel they spread out here for traction. His #1 concern was taking extra rocks into his windshield and front of the car. I know I spend each spring spot fixing all the paint that gets chipped on the front of my Tundra and the wife's Tahao, and we don't even bother to repair/replace windshields here until they are pretty well shot. I would not want to be doing that to my TTS.
-TJ
PS. Oh, and I didn't intend to start a debate about climate.
#34
Three Wheelin'
#35
Three Wheelin'
Originally Posted by DBH
I've seen what the local car wash does to wide rear wheels on a Porsche (not mine), so I'll pass.
#36
Rennlist Member
I drove through two winters, washed frequently, including undercarriage - I inspect the car regulary on a lift, I don't see any corrosion or salt related damage.
Life is too short for storing cars away
Life is too short for storing cars away
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#37
Rennlist Member
My TTS will be taking its winter nap within a month or so. Major concern is the low temps on summer tires. I have a set of winter wheels and tires already mounted on my Audi S6. That will be the ride for the winter (unless we get an unseasonably warm day).
#38
RL Community Team
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Chicago winter here. Winter tires go in about thanksgiving time, out in March (hopefully). The only major hassle is the cold seats that sends the family jewels up to the armpits. The car takes forever to warm up the cabin. The .2 is definitely faster in that sense than the .1. Only time I wish I had a Tesla for remote pre-heating the car.
Otherwise, I'll drive it everyday in winter, sometimes with the top down if not too freezing outside. These cars are driven in Europe in similar if not worse conditions. The other drivers in winter scare me far more than rust.
Otherwise, I'll drive it everyday in winter, sometimes with the top down if not too freezing outside. These cars are driven in Europe in similar if not worse conditions. The other drivers in winter scare me far more than rust.
#39
Rennlist Member
My largest concern is that things just break in the cold. No matter how much you try and heat up the oil and engine, it is still a hard start on the engine and takes a while to get warmed up. And some parts of the car never get warmed up.
Can you even put a block heater in a Porsche? I never even looked to see if it could be done. I know an old assistant of mine had a BMW and there wasn't a spot to put one in, so she had to have a contraption added to the side of her radiator to warm and cycle the radiator fluid.
Another issue my co-worker brought up (he has a Jag he just put away for the winter) is all the gravel they spread out here for traction. His #1 concern was taking extra rocks into his windshield and front of the car. I know I spend each spring spot fixing all the paint that gets chipped on the front of my Tundra and the wife's Tahao, and we don't even bother to repair/replace windshields here until they are pretty well shot. I would not want to be doing that to my TTS.
-TJ
PS. Oh, and I didn't intend to start a debate about climate.
Can you even put a block heater in a Porsche? I never even looked to see if it could be done. I know an old assistant of mine had a BMW and there wasn't a spot to put one in, so she had to have a contraption added to the side of her radiator to warm and cycle the radiator fluid.
Another issue my co-worker brought up (he has a Jag he just put away for the winter) is all the gravel they spread out here for traction. His #1 concern was taking extra rocks into his windshield and front of the car. I know I spend each spring spot fixing all the paint that gets chipped on the front of my Tundra and the wife's Tahao, and we don't even bother to repair/replace windshields here until they are pretty well shot. I would not want to be doing that to my TTS.
-TJ
PS. Oh, and I didn't intend to start a debate about climate.
Electric heating pads can be adhered to any flat surface, including the battery. I am sure a dedicated effort could find a way in a 991.
But you are correct about the rock damage. Around here, the "sand" the county spreads looks more like 1/4 inch pebbles.
#40
Let's see, anything under 40 and/or snow and Rumble Bee is staying home.
Summer tires and road salt don't mix too well with cold weather.
Politics aside, common sense dictates we have some climate impact but in the scheme of things we should not give ourselves that much credit. Mother Earth could wipe most of us out with a single hiccup.
Electrical power isn't all that clean, given some of its current sources (coal, nuclear, fuel).
Until solar panels and recharging times improve I can't be convinced of giving up my Internal combustion engines.
To support the cause, I picked up a job closer to home so I'm playing my part in reducing overall driving which benefits otherwise horrible traffic congestion and reduces the load on our crumbling infrastructure. Everyone can do their part...maybe telecommute more frequently etc.
Now come weekends, F U EPA. Nothing stands between the flat 6 or V8. Balance!
Back to temperatures...under 40 I'm in the DD...the 9-yr old 328xi...with the better hydraulic steering than the GTS...
Summer tires and road salt don't mix too well with cold weather.
Politics aside, common sense dictates we have some climate impact but in the scheme of things we should not give ourselves that much credit. Mother Earth could wipe most of us out with a single hiccup.
Electrical power isn't all that clean, given some of its current sources (coal, nuclear, fuel).
Until solar panels and recharging times improve I can't be convinced of giving up my Internal combustion engines.
To support the cause, I picked up a job closer to home so I'm playing my part in reducing overall driving which benefits otherwise horrible traffic congestion and reduces the load on our crumbling infrastructure. Everyone can do their part...maybe telecommute more frequently etc.
Now come weekends, F U EPA. Nothing stands between the flat 6 or V8. Balance!
Back to temperatures...under 40 I'm in the DD...the 9-yr old 328xi...with the better hydraulic steering than the GTS...
#41
It is unlikely that corrosion alone will make the 911 (or most modern cars for that matter) undriveable. It is far more likely the porsche will suffer a terminal mechanical problem before rust makes it un-roadworthy. Having said that, I will be putting my car away for the winter- not due to rustaphobia but because I don't feel like swapping for snow tires.
#43
#44
Rennlist Member
For me it's not that the car can't do it's more I don't need it too. The stuff they throw on the roads here ( my town drops volcanic rock pebbles, it's like getting a sandblast) is like shrapnel so why drive it just to have to deal with the aftermath in the spring.
I know the TTS is capable but for me it's why? I hop in the AWD suv in the winter and don't care what happens to it. Don't have to change tires or driving habits. In a few weeks maybe sooner it's going to sleep.
Building a house in Florida so once I call work as it is now quits I'll be driving it year round.
I know the TTS is capable but for me it's why? I hop in the AWD suv in the winter and don't care what happens to it. Don't have to change tires or driving habits. In a few weeks maybe sooner it's going to sleep.
Building a house in Florida so once I call work as it is now quits I'll be driving it year round.
#45
Racer
When the tires turn to hockey pucks and little rattles etc. appear in the interior because everything's cold. Also, my TTS seems to like 30C weather better than 3C weather as far as power production. It's "snappy" but it doesn't put down as much force.