PDK Failure & Outcome Story
#211
Burning Brakes
#212
The same way the PDK is put together, it should be serviceable. Sounds like it takes way too much time and money to fix, so they replace them instead of taking the time to fix. PDK failures are imminent, and yes, it will suck when one goes 20 years later. Should’ve been easier to work on.
20 years from now most cars won't even have multi-gear transmissions. Perfect example - my 993 steering rack died. No one makes hydraulic steering racks any more for these cars (or any hardly at all)- the ones you buy are remanufactured from old cores. The cost is astronomical - retail ~$5k for what used to cost <$1k. If a PDK costs $40k today...>$100k replacement cost in the future??
#213
Absolutely nothing lasts forever.
20 years from now most cars won't even have multi-gear transmissions. Perfect example - my 993 steering rack died. No one makes hydraulic steering racks any more for these cars (or any hardly at all)- the ones you buy are remanufactured from old cores. The cost is astronomical - retail ~$5k for what used to cost <$1k. If a PDK costs $40k today...>$100k replacement cost in the future??
20 years from now most cars won't even have multi-gear transmissions. Perfect example - my 993 steering rack died. No one makes hydraulic steering racks any more for these cars (or any hardly at all)- the ones you buy are remanufactured from old cores. The cost is astronomical - retail ~$5k for what used to cost <$1k. If a PDK costs $40k today...>$100k replacement cost in the future??
Last edited by Tampa991; 05-14-2019 at 04:20 PM.
#214
You can get a used PDK unit for $5k...inventory will continue to increase and perhaps drive the price down further. The same concern happened with the E9X M3 DCT units..dealer stated 25k for replacement in the beginning years. Now you can get used units for $2k or less.
I was surprised by how dramatically the hydraulic steering rack price changed. Literally overnight, hardly anyone is using or making them anymore.
Probably will be a while before PDKs become obsolete and are no longer produced.
#215
Here is a new twist on my situation. I had to go to California but after a redeye, I'm back and the truck just left with my car. It still exhibited the same problem but when I put it into neutral to push it, something must have "unjammed". The Move gear lever to position P message went away and the car would go into gear. Since the truck was here and the tow hook was screwed in, I decided to send it on to the dealer. The loud clang that I heard on Monday when I put it into D was enough for me to be very cautious. Has anyone else ever seen this happen? BTW, my truck driver told me he recently towed a brand new 2019 with less than 50 mi on the clock with a bad PDK. It actually belonged to a Porsche executive here in ATL.
#216
Racer
Here is a new twist on my situation. I had to go to California but after a redeye, I'm back and the truck just left with my car. It still exhibited the same problem but when I put it into neutral to push it, something must have "unjammed". The Move gear lever to position P message went away and the car would go into gear. Since the truck was here and the tow hook was screwed in, I decided to send it on to the dealer. The loud clang that I heard on Monday when I put it into D was enough for me to be very cautious. Has anyone else ever seen this happen? BTW, my truck driver told me he recently towed a brand new 2019 with less than 50 mi on the clock with a bad PDK. It actually belonged to a Porsche executive here in ATL.
I am positive the porsche executive will get the full service though.
#217
Rennlist Member
seeing this happen a lot, it is common enough to appear on multiple times on the same thread- I hope Porsche steps up their game and covers this with extended warranties or they'll be losing my faith in the company for sure.
I am positive the porsche executive will get the full service though.
I am positive the porsche executive will get the full service though.
#218
Nordschleife Master
Yep, that car is gonna get sold to some unsuspecting customer. The exec is not waiting 2 months for parts from Germany, he is jettisoning that one and getting a brand new baby.
#219
seeing this happen a lot, it is common enough to appear on multiple times on the same thread- I hope Porsche steps up their game and covers this with extended warranties or they'll be losing my faith in the company for sure.
I am positive the porsche executive will get the full service though.
I am positive the porsche executive will get the full service though.
Yeah, I'm sure he/she probably got a new one or maybe they got a Macan loaner just like we do. I wonder if it went to a local dealer for the repairs and yeah, I agree, that car will eventually wind up in the hands of an unsuspecting customer.
#220
I mean it's great they are replacing most of these with little cost to the owner, but what about resale value? Having that major work show up on the CarFax will for sure hurt the resale value. Anything on the Carfax on these cars hurts them.
#221
I traded my 14 991.1 after pdk replacement with a refurbished unit under cpo. The car also had rear end damage history. I had driven it 10000 miles. On paper I received a trade value equal to what I paid. My limited research on this subject is that it's like having an alternator or battery replaced. Nobody cares about matching numbers for a tranny. In my case it seems to have helped on trade in because the pdk was not a mystery. As far as carfax is concerned there are sales people that will use anything on a carfax to manipulate the sell in any profitable manner. I've seen dealer damaged 911's with more than 3 panels damaged report a clean carfax and on the other hand had a dealer try to discount a sweet boxster s I traded because it had a carfax but no damage. The car was written up in an accident report but was not hit by another vehicle. I called bs on that and the salesman backed down but he tried. Gloves on.
#222
2012 Carrera S 40,000 miles transmission failure
If you are out of warranty and bringing this car to the dealer for a PDK error, you are out of your mind. There are multiple shops that rebuild these units, and countless used PDK units that are available off the shelf for a 1/4-1/2 of the cost. The failure rate on these is very low, the forum exaggerates the data points because people come to complain (I would be too if my PDK failed!).
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#223
Rennlist Member
I own a 2012 Carrera S with 40,000 miles, car is out of warranty. I recently experienced the PDK transmission module failure code on my dash. Car went into in limp mode, was shifting every other gear. Had no problems with this car ever, I’ve owned it for two years and this happened all the sudden with no warning. I had the car towed 50 miles north of me to Ann Arbor Porsche. They diagnosed the car, said I needed a transmission replacement at the cost of $18,000! I called my local Porsche tech to see if he could give me a better deal On a used transmission. He only Found three in the entire country, and he couldn’t verify mileage or any info on these transmissions without paying for them first. I am one of the lucky ones. Porsche called me three days later and said that the factory agreed to replace my transmission at no cost to me. I believe this is a known issue with Porsche especially after reading this forum and finding out that other people have had the same issue. Personally I’m glad I took my car to my local dealership. I would suggest any Porsche owner to do the same and to also research any extended warranty you can get for your Porsche. Thank you to Jermain Porsche of Ann Arbor for doing the right thing and taking care of their customers. This seems like a very rare thing these days!
Just curious, is your 2012 a 997.2 or 991?
#224
991.1 PDK Transmission failure
I own a 2012 Carrera S with 40,000 miles, this car is out of warranty. I recently experienced the PDK transmission module failure code on my dash. Car went into in limp mode, was shifting every other gear. Had no problems with this car ever, I’ve owned it for two years, I Purchased it used with 30,000 miles on it and this happened all the sudden with no warning. I had the car towed 50 miles north of me to Ann Arbor Porsche. They diagnosed the car, said I needed a transmission replacement at the cost of $18,000! I called my local Porsche tech to see if he could give me a better deal On a used transmission. He only Found three in the entire country, and he couldn’t verify mileage or any info on these transmissions without paying for it first. I am one of the lucky ones.Porsche called me three days later and said that the factory agreed to replace my transmission at no cost to me. I believe this is a known issue with Porsche especially after reading this forum and finding out that other people have had the same issue. Personally I’m glad I took my car to my local dealership. I would suggest any Porsche owner to do the same and to also research any extended warranty you can get for your Porsche. Thank you to Jermain Porsche of Ann Arbor for doing the right thing and taking care of their customers. This seems like a very rare thing these days!
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#225
Racer
I own a 2012 Carrera S with 40,000 miles, car is out of warranty. I recently experienced the PDK transmission module failure code on my dash. Car went into in limp mode, was shifting every other gear. Had no problems with this car ever, I’ve owned it for two years and this happened all the sudden with no warning. I had the car towed 50 miles north of me to Ann Arbor Porsche. They diagnosed the car, said I needed a transmission replacement at the cost of $18,000! I called my local Porsche tech to see if he could give me a better deal On a used transmission. He only Found three in the entire country, and he couldn’t verify mileage or any info on these transmissions without paying for them first. I am one of the lucky ones. Porsche called me three days later and said that the factory agreed to replace my transmission at no cost to me. I believe this is a known issue with Porsche especially after reading this forum and finding out that other people have had the same issue. Personally I’m glad I took my car to my local dealership. I would suggest any Porsche owner to do the same and to also research any extended warranty you can get for your Porsche. Thank you to Jermain Porsche of Ann Arbor for doing the right thing and taking care of their customers. This seems like a very rare thing these days!