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Old 05-14-2019, 03:54 PM
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Was not aware Gintani made their own rod bearings...BE is the only way to go.
They don't make their own, it's just whatever bearings they use. The previous owner had them upgraded when they supercharged the car. Cost was $2800 for rod bearings
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Old 05-14-2019, 03:57 PM
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The same way the PDK is put together, it should be serviceable. Sounds like it takes way too much time and money to fix, so they replace them instead of taking the time to fix. PDK failures are imminent, and yes, it will suck when one goes 20 years later. Should’ve been easier to work on.
Absolutely nothing lasts forever.

20 years from now most cars won't even have multi-gear transmissions. Perfect example - my 993 steering rack died. No one makes hydraulic steering racks any more for these cars (or any hardly at all)- the ones you buy are remanufactured from old cores. The cost is astronomical - retail ~$5k for what used to cost <$1k. If a PDK costs $40k today...>$100k replacement cost in the future??
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Old 05-14-2019, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rk-d View Post
Absolutely nothing lasts forever.

20 years from now most cars won't even have multi-gear transmissions. Perfect example - my 993 steering rack died. No one makes hydraulic steering racks any more for these cars (or any hardly at all)- the ones you buy are remanufactured from old cores. The cost is astronomical - retail ~$5k for what used to cost <$1k. If a PDK costs $40k today...>$100k replacement cost in the future??
You can get a used PDK unit for $7k...inventory will continue to increase and perhaps drive the price down further. The same concern happened with the E9X M3 DCT units..dealer stated 25k for replacement in the beginning years. Now you can get used units for $2k or less.

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Old 05-14-2019, 04:21 PM
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You can get a used PDK unit for $5k...inventory will continue to increase and perhaps drive the price down further. The same concern happened with the E9X M3 DCT units..dealer stated 25k for replacement in the beginning years. Now you can get used units for $2k or less.
Hopefully. I was being a little facetious there.

I was surprised by how dramatically the hydraulic steering rack price changed. Literally overnight, hardly anyone is using or making them anymore.

Probably will be a while before PDKs become obsolete and are no longer produced.
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Old 05-15-2019, 12:51 PM
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Here is a new twist on my situation. I had to go to California but after a redeye, I'm back and the truck just left with my car. It still exhibited the same problem but when I put it into neutral to push it, something must have "unjammed". The Move gear lever to position P message went away and the car would go into gear. Since the truck was here and the tow hook was screwed in, I decided to send it on to the dealer. The loud clang that I heard on Monday when I put it into D was enough for me to be very cautious. Has anyone else ever seen this happen? BTW, my truck driver told me he recently towed a brand new 2019 with less than 50 mi on the clock with a bad PDK. It actually belonged to a Porsche executive here in ATL.
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Old 05-15-2019, 03:13 PM
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Here is a new twist on my situation. I had to go to California but after a redeye, I'm back and the truck just left with my car. It still exhibited the same problem but when I put it into neutral to push it, something must have "unjammed". The Move gear lever to position P message went away and the car would go into gear. Since the truck was here and the tow hook was screwed in, I decided to send it on to the dealer. The loud clang that I heard on Monday when I put it into D was enough for me to be very cautious. Has anyone else ever seen this happen? BTW, my truck driver told me he recently towed a brand new 2019 with less than 50 mi on the clock with a bad PDK. It actually belonged to a Porsche executive here in ATL.
seeing this happen a lot, it is common enough to appear on multiple times on the same thread- I hope Porsche steps up their game and covers this with extended warranties or they'll be losing my faith in the company for sure.

I am positive the porsche executive will get the full service though.
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Old 05-15-2019, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dkhm3 View Post
seeing this happen a lot, it is common enough to appear on multiple times on the same thread- I hope Porsche steps up their game and covers this with extended warranties or they'll be losing my faith in the company for sure.

I am positive the porsche executive will get the full service though.
If it was in fact a Porsche Executive, that car most likely belongs to Porsche I am sure they get car perks.
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Old 05-15-2019, 05:01 PM
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If it was in fact a Porsche Executive, that car most likely belongs to Porsche I am sure they get car perks.

Yep, that car is gonna get sold to some unsuspecting customer. The exec is not waiting 2 months for parts from Germany, he is jettisoning that one and getting a brand new baby.
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Old 05-15-2019, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dkhm3 View Post
seeing this happen a lot, it is common enough to appear on multiple times on the same thread- I hope Porsche steps up their game and covers this with extended warranties or they'll be losing my faith in the company for sure.

I am positive the porsche executive will get the full service though.
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If it was in fact a Porsche Executive, that car most likely belongs to Porsche I am sure they get car perks.
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Yep, that car is gonna get sold to some unsuspecting customer. The exec is not waiting 2 months for parts from Germany, he is jettisoning that one and getting a brand new baby.

Yeah, I'm sure he/she probably got a new one or maybe they got a Macan loaner just like we do. I wonder if it went to a local dealer for the repairs and yeah, I agree, that car will eventually wind up in the hands of an unsuspecting customer.
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Old 05-16-2019, 01:34 PM
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I mean it's great they are replacing most of these with little cost to the owner, but what about resale value? Having that major work show up on the CarFax will for sure hurt the resale value. Anything on the Carfax on these cars hurts them.
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Old 05-16-2019, 02:16 PM
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I traded my 14 991.1 after pdk replacement with a refurbished unit under cpo. The car also had rear end damage history. I had driven it 10000 miles. On paper I received a trade value equal to what I paid. My limited research on this subject is that it's like having an alternator or battery replaced. Nobody cares about matching numbers for a tranny. In my case it seems to have helped on trade in because the pdk was not a mystery. As far as carfax is concerned there are sales people that will use anything on a carfax to manipulate the sell in any profitable manner. I've seen dealer damaged 911's with more than 3 panels damaged report a clean carfax and on the other hand had a dealer try to discount a sweet boxster s I traded because it had a carfax but no damage. The car was written up in an accident report but was not hit by another vehicle. I called bs on that and the salesman backed down but he tried. Gloves on.
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