911 T owners club
08-10-2018, 04:40 PM
#601
I am considering the GIAC tune offered by the dealers. If you read your warranty booklet, it states all parts installed by the dealers and car is warrantied by Porsche North America. The price is 2200 plus labor and ads 130ft-lb and 80hp.
When I do it (likely in spring) I will also add center radiator and a intercooler from AMS to ensure I get better cooling as I plan to take it on the track 1-2 weekend per year. If you don't track, maybe the tune only is ok for you
When I do it (likely in spring) I will also add center radiator and a intercooler from AMS to ensure I get better cooling as I plan to take it on the track 1-2 weekend per year. If you don't track, maybe the tune only is ok for you
I say all this just for clarification. I'm still planning on doing a flash at some point anyway
450HP/tq in a T will be a blast!!!
08-10-2018, 04:49 PM
#602
Cruisin'
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You used Alex's logo attachment mechanism, or came up with something different? I'm a little concerned about what heat will do to the glue Alex used to attach the nuts to the logo...
08-10-2018, 06:33 PM
#603
Still you make a good point. I did unscrew the grill off the body to better figure it out.
There is plenty of plastic there that should melt before the epoxy !
Forgot to take photos !
I am unsure whether I will leave it on.
May explore other 911 grill alternatives, so easy to replace. GT3 Touring (ha).
08-10-2018, 10:13 PM
#604
Rennlist Member
Congratulations! Car is beautiful, and happy to see another T with the original badge!
This is such a simple mod, but I think brings a lot of character to the T.
08-11-2018, 12:08 PM
#605
Instructor
I agree that the classic 911T logo adds charm and character to the aesthetic of the car and am debating the merits of doing it to my own T.
I guess my struggle is that the 991 version isn't technically a 911T. It's a 911 Carrera T. Similarly, the original long hood car of the late 60s and early 70s wasn't a Carrera. It was simply a 911T. Please know that my post isn't intended to be negatively provacative, it's a point of curiosity more than anything.
As the final point of potential reference, the 911R (60s version and 991 version) has always been simply, the 911R.
Thoughts?
I guess my struggle is that the 991 version isn't technically a 911T. It's a 911 Carrera T. Similarly, the original long hood car of the late 60s and early 70s wasn't a Carrera. It was simply a 911T. Please know that my post isn't intended to be negatively provacative, it's a point of curiosity more than anything.
As the final point of potential reference, the 911R (60s version and 991 version) has always been simply, the 911R.
Thoughts?
08-11-2018, 02:11 PM
#606
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I agree that the classic 911T logo adds charm and character to the aesthetic of the car and am debating the merits of doing it to my own T.
I guess my struggle is that the 991 version isn't technically a 911T. It's a 911 Carrera T. Similarly, the original long hood car of the late 60s and early 70s wasn't a Carrera. It was simply a 911T. Please know that my post isn't intended to be negatively provacative, it's a point of curiosity more than anything.
As the final point of potential reference, the 911R (60s version and 991 version) has always been simply, the 911R.
Thoughts?
I guess my struggle is that the 991 version isn't technically a 911T. It's a 911 Carrera T. Similarly, the original long hood car of the late 60s and early 70s wasn't a Carrera. It was simply a 911T. Please know that my post isn't intended to be negatively provacative, it's a point of curiosity more than anything.
As the final point of potential reference, the 911R (60s version and 991 version) has always been simply, the 911R.
Thoughts?
The 911 Carrera Club Sport (CS) (option M637), 340 of which were produced from August 1987 to September 1989, is a reduced weight version of the standard Carrera that, with engine and suspension modifications, was purpose built for club racing. The CS had a blueprinted engine with hollow intake valves and a higher rev limit, deletion of: all power options, sunroof (except one unit), air conditioning (except two unit), radio, rear seat, undercoating, sound insulation, rear wiper, door pocket lids, fog lamps, front hood locking mechanism, engine and luggage compartment lights, lockable wheel nuts and even the rear lid "Carrera" logo, all in order to save an estimated 70 kg (150 lb) in weight. With the exception of CSs delivered to the UK, all are identifiable by the "CS Club Sport" decal on the left front fender and came in a variety of colors, some special ordered. Some U.S. CS's did not have the decal installed by the dealer; however, all CS's have a "SP" stamp on the crankcase and cylinder head. The UK CS's were all "Grand Prix White" with a red "Carrera CS" decal on each side of the car and red wheels. Although the CS was well received by the club racers, because it cost more than the stock 911, but had fewer comfort features. According to Porsche Club of America and Porsche Club Great Britain CS Registers, 21 are documented as delivered to the U.S. in 1988 with 7 in 1989, one to Canada in 1988 and 53 to the United Kingdom from 1987 to 1989.
08-11-2018, 02:59 PM
#607
Rennlist Member
If they were trying to recreate the Club Sport they kinda missed the mark in not insignificant ways. In my view, we have a Carrera T and I think Porsche has tried and succeeded in making the car distinct. Over time, I hope that the character of the Carrera T will become endearing and individual, maybe like the Club Sport but more like the RS America.
08-11-2018, 06:43 PM
#608
If they were trying to recreate the Club Sport they kinda missed the mark in not insignificant ways. In my view, we have a Carrera T and I think Porsche has tried and succeeded in making the car distinct. Over time, I hope that the character of the Carrera T will become endearing and individual, maybe like the Club Sport but more like the RS America.
08-11-2018, 10:28 PM
#610
Rennlist Member
I know that in the "T-world" it is heresy against the "ethos of the T" to spec a sunroof, and even worst, a glass sunroof. BUT, you've got to admit, that with some colors, the black glass roof just looks FANTASTIC! Red, Yellow, White and GT Silver just looks outstanding with it. That is why like some others here, I spec'd it on mine, and I love it.
And one cool feature is this: If you tilt the sunroof (glass or metal), the spoiler goes up another notch, giving it almost a ducktail look.
And one cool feature is this: If you tilt the sunroof (glass or metal), the spoiler goes up another notch, giving it almost a ducktail look.
08-11-2018, 11:00 PM
#611
Does anybody know the location and weight of the sub-woofer (base sound system) in the T?
thanks in advance.
thanks in advance.
08-11-2018, 11:46 PM
#612
Instructor
Precisely the point I was making with my original post on the issue. The car deserves to stand on it's own merits. It something far more spicy than what the original T was ever intended to be, but may not be the reincarnation of the Club Sport ( of which I'm very familiar). I think the RS America reference is getting closer to what this car is about but still, it's something different. For which I love it, and for which I say, keep the name as Porsche did. It's a Carrera T and there has never been another! Celebrate as I do, every time you see it and drive it!
08-11-2018, 11:49 PM
#613
Instructor
[QUOTE=shing911500e;15209221
]Precisely the point I was making with my original post on the issue. The car deserves to stand on it's own merits. It something far more spicy than what the original T was ever intended to be, but may not be the reincarnation of the Club Sport ( of which I'm very familiar). I think the RS America reference is getting closer to what this car is about but still, it's something different. For which I love it, and for which I say, keep the name as Porsche did. It's a Carrera T and there has never been another! Celebrate as I do, every time you see it and drive it!
]Precisely the point I was making with my original post on the issue. The car deserves to stand on it's own merits. It something far more spicy than what the original T was ever intended to be, but may not be the reincarnation of the Club Sport ( of which I'm very familiar). I think the RS America reference is getting closer to what this car is about but still, it's something different. For which I love it, and for which I say, keep the name as Porsche did. It's a Carrera T and there has never been another! Celebrate as I do, every time you see it and drive it!
08-12-2018, 12:12 AM
#614
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Porsche was trying to recreate the 1988 Club Sport(see description from wiki below), I'm considering making a "CS Club Sport" decal on the left fender(like the 1988) and deleting all T decals, the old 911 T was a stripped down version to lower the selling price.
The 911 Carrera Club Sport (CS) (option M637), 340 of which were produced from August 1987 to September 1989, is a reduced weight version of the standard Carrera that, with engine and suspension modifications, was purpose built for club racing. The CS had a blueprinted engine with hollow intake valves and a higher rev limit, deletion of: all power options, sunroof (except one unit), air conditioning (except two unit), radio, rear seat, undercoating, sound insulation, rear wiper, door pocket lids, fog lamps, front hood locking mechanism, engine and luggage compartment lights, lockable wheel nuts and even the rear lid "Carrera" logo, all in order to save an estimated 70 kg (150 lb) in weight. With the exception of CSs delivered to the UK, all are identifiable by the "CS Club Sport" decal on the left front fender and came in a variety of colors, some special ordered. Some U.S. CS's did not have the decal installed by the dealer; however, all CS's have a "SP" stamp on the crankcase and cylinder head. The UK CS's were all "Grand Prix White" with a red "Carrera CS" decal on each side of the car and red wheels. Although the CS was well received by the club racers, because it cost more than the stock 911, but had fewer comfort features. According to Porsche Club of America and Porsche Club Great Britain CS Registers, 21 are documented as delivered to the U.S. in 1988 with 7 in 1989, one to Canada in 1988 and 53 to the United Kingdom from 1987 to 1989.
The 911 Carrera Club Sport (CS) (option M637), 340 of which were produced from August 1987 to September 1989, is a reduced weight version of the standard Carrera that, with engine and suspension modifications, was purpose built for club racing. The CS had a blueprinted engine with hollow intake valves and a higher rev limit, deletion of: all power options, sunroof (except one unit), air conditioning (except two unit), radio, rear seat, undercoating, sound insulation, rear wiper, door pocket lids, fog lamps, front hood locking mechanism, engine and luggage compartment lights, lockable wheel nuts and even the rear lid "Carrera" logo, all in order to save an estimated 70 kg (150 lb) in weight. With the exception of CSs delivered to the UK, all are identifiable by the "CS Club Sport" decal on the left front fender and came in a variety of colors, some special ordered. Some U.S. CS's did not have the decal installed by the dealer; however, all CS's have a "SP" stamp on the crankcase and cylinder head. The UK CS's were all "Grand Prix White" with a red "Carrera CS" decal on each side of the car and red wheels. Although the CS was well received by the club racers, because it cost more than the stock 911, but had fewer comfort features. According to Porsche Club of America and Porsche Club Great Britain CS Registers, 21 are documented as delivered to the U.S. in 1988 with 7 in 1989, one to Canada in 1988 and 53 to the United Kingdom from 1987 to 1989.
08-12-2018, 12:16 PM
#615
I know that in the "T-world" it is heresy against the "ethos of the T" to spec a sunroof, and even worst, a glass sunroof. BUT, you've got to admit, that with some colors, the black glass roof just looks FANTASTIC! Red, Yellow, White and GT Silver just looks outstanding with it. That is why like some others here, I spec'd it on mine, and I love it.
And one cool feature is this: If you tilt the sunroof (glass or metal), the spoiler goes up another notch, giving it almost a ducktail look.
And one cool feature is this: If you tilt the sunroof (glass or metal), the spoiler goes up another notch, giving it almost a ducktail look.