gellie

How does Waze help with laser/radar detecters ?

erko1905

You're relying on others to tag the location of a LEO. It gives you a warning when you're approaching such a tag.

If it's a moving vehicle, you're out of luck.

If you're in a sparsely populated area without many Waze users, you're out of luck.

If the LEO is well hidden and hasn't been seen detected by other Waze users yet, or simply has just set up shop, you're out of luck.

I think it's a useful tool in addition to various other gear, but definitely nowhere near what's necessary as a standalone tool

911-TOUR

Here in Texas - Radar still seems more prevalent away from the cities - I use my V1 and Waze to stay out of trouble.

Penn4S

subwoofer

I will throw this in FWIW. Speeding on the highways is always risky. Sooner or later, you will get nabbed. And it is very stressful to be speeding and watching your back or the skies.
For spirited drives anyway, backroads are more fun IMO in a 911 or a Boxster. I find it best to pick times when enforcement is lax and I am not being a nuisance to others on the road. Usually that means, very early mornings on weekends or Sunday afternoons. I have several 50-100 mile loops that I do and am familar with so it is like driving on my own personal racetrack. But still, I watch my speed.
If I lived in a big city, the only way I would consider owning a 911 is if I had the means and access to a track. Otherwise, it would be an endless exercise in frustration.
Radar detectors are very useful but can only do so much. Waze is good but cops have wised up on crowd sourcing.

Penn4S

erko1905

The one issue I have w partial protection is that one might drive a bit differently depending on whether he/she has protection or not. So the worst thing really would be thinking that you're protected due to the radar detector, driving faster because of that, and getting clocked by laser while doing so. But I feel like I'm above average in my paranoia/interest on this subject so it's more than likely you should be fine w an R3 and some sensible driving.

The problem w LIDAR is that in a 911 (or any other low slung sports car for that matter) you get more of it. I drove around in a black 3 series (the german camry in its stealth and commonness) for quite a while and in that I almost never got lasered in the tri-state area. With the 911, I seem to get lasered pretty frequently. I feel like my driving style has been fairly similar.

I'll tell you another story which made me more aware of this type of targeting. I was driving to Canada last summer to attend a PCA event at LCMT, and I got pulled over sometime before Albany. My car had racing numbers on the doors too (another rookie mistake, I was too lazy to take them off I guess). I was 100% sure I did not get my speed measured by any device, and was "fairly sure" I was not paced by an unmarked car. The LEO approached my car and told me "he's been getting reports that I've been driving above the speed limit", which I've interpreted to mean "I pulled you over because I think you must've been speeding in a car like this". I told him that I was definitely not speeding, had just left a service area having accelerated to about 55 on the rightmost lane, and had an HD cam on with this data which I could present to him. He ran my info and told me to be careful out there, and sent me on my way.

I do understand the risks of speeding on a public road and I do try to avoid it whenever possible but from a philosophical standpoint I find the speed limit enforcement in the US quite bizarre. Speed limits are super low; everybody is exceeding the posted speed limit "just the right amount" so that they don't get pulled over and everybody speeds together; and they make sure to pull over the out of town sports car to help the municipal budget, and some high speeds have potential to become a felony? I just really find it nonsensical, hence my extra care to stay away from this kind of trouble.

kuma1416

The problem with any RD regardless of sensitivity is that it only detects when the radar is on. That's why an empty stretch of road can be the most likely place to get a ticket- there are no "scout" cars in front of you to set your RD off. Not long ago while driving on a winding road in my SUV I had a cop pull right up to my bumper. After a while my Redline went off full blast, then off. On again, then off. On, off, for ten miles. He was hiding behind me and flicking the radar on/off clocking the cars passing in the opposite lane. Most annoying. But a speeder in the opposite lane would likely not have had a chance even if he had a detector since the pulse was so short and hard to localize. So in some ways old fashioned radar is harder to defeat than laser. You can jam laser, but you cannot defeat instant on radar. I've also noticed the % of cars with BSM setting off false K band alerts has increased over the years (I would deactivate it, but some cops in my area still use K). Apparently the new Redline EX does a better job at cleaning up false alarms, but may have a shorter range than the older model. I'm going to try the Uniden R3 which Ive heard is superior in range to the Redline. It also has undetectability like the redline, GPS, but is quite a bit cheaper and has automatic shut off after a period if it detects the car is not moving, which will help prevent battery drain.

subwoofer

phx991

+1 for Uniden R3

sampelligrino

Uniden R3 seems to be getting a lot of good reviews. It has to be hardwired to power it? And the windshield is the only location to be able to work properly? Learning on the fly here via Rennlist and Google...

John Mclane

I do like it better, but part of it is cosmetic. Today you should really consider a hard look on the Uniden R3

phx991

Comes with a coiled cord with a cigarette lighter adapter, but I have mine hard wired. It includes mounts for the windshield and sun visor, and it can be mounted the mirror using a BlendMount.

aCayenneFan

You might want to research a good traffic attorney to represent you in the event you get tagged. The best expenditure of $ I ever made was for a traffic attorney after I got tagged for going 72 in a 50 zone. In CA if regular radar (non-laser) is used to 'catch' a speed violator, the LEO must provide proof the radar unit was tested and conformed to specification within some period of time immediately before (same day?) the citation was issued. The LEO couldn't provide the required proof and the case was dismissed.

Don't overlook situational awareness if you are going to speed. Look for potential hides far ahead of you and slow down as you approach the hides. If you are lucky to have a stalking horse run ahead of you to flush out the LEOs, by all means let them lead the way.

sampelligrino

This is great advice and I am still on the fence about whether I should get an RD or not

I almost don't want one, as it may give me a false sense of confidence that if the RD isn't beeping/making noises I'm "good to go" (and I don't want to rely on that), whereas right now driving my C4 I really only open her up when my intuition and a scan of the road tell me it's safe to do so for a brief moment, like on some canyon runs. If I see any other cars on the road/highway, I try my very hardest to stay at speed with them or a little bit under depending on how over the speed limit they are... I'm never just blazing past other drivers

I don't think any of us on here drive like jackasses or recklessly (I would hope), but the RD is an additional layer of protection that is intriguing coming from 0 experience with one. Especially in CA where we have such great driving roads *and* people drive very fast over here