Michelin 4S
#32
Rennlist Member
I don't get it either.. As a diehard Michelin Pilot Sport fan these N rated Pzeros are lightyears better than their old compound and at least as sticky as Mich PSS tires. Honestly they perform well and are not very loud. Now if we are talking about Pirelli's older Pzero Neros those were just garbage.. Don't even get me started on how many of the bmw guys used to praise conti dws tires and hankook v12s.. Those were garbage as well.
#33
Rennlist Member
I don't get it either.. As a diehard Michelin Pilot Sport fan these N rated Pzeros are lightyears better than their old compound and at least as sticky as Mich PSS tires. Honestly they perform well and are not very loud. Now if we are talking about Pirelli's older Pzero Neros those were just garbage.. Don't even get me started on how many of the bmw guys used to praise conti dws tires and hankook v12s.. Those were garbage as well.
But the latest Pirellis on the 991 are quite good.
#34
Three Wheelin'
Discount called me back and said the guys at Michelin headquarters said they don't make this tire in N0 for the Porsche. He brought up to the guys that tirerack has them up. He then told me that the Michelin guy said tirerack is only doing this to make sales off the Porsche guys.
Buncha he said, she said
Buncha he said, she said
I saw them on Michelin website. "For Porsche". 245 and 305
#35
Three Wheelin'
#36
Rennlist Member
My 2018 4s coupe was delivered with P zeros N1. They are noisy no doubt about it. I now have 19-inch winter wheels and tires, continentals. The winter tires, 295 rears, are actually quieter than the P zeros.
In my 13 Boxster S after I switched from the P zeros N0 to MPSS tires, the noise level went down and the ride was improved.
But it is good to get some feedback from folks who have tried both the new P zeros and the new PS4S tires. At this point, I don't know whether switching to the Michelins is worth it. I do dislike the noise the P zeros make especially on concrete. On asphalt, they are are not that bad.
In my 13 Boxster S after I switched from the P zeros N0 to MPSS tires, the noise level went down and the ride was improved.
But it is good to get some feedback from folks who have tried both the new P zeros and the new PS4S tires. At this point, I don't know whether switching to the Michelins is worth it. I do dislike the noise the P zeros make especially on concrete. On asphalt, they are are not that bad.
#37
Rennlist Member
I've had the non-Porsche approved PS4S in 255/305 since about May (991.1 C4S). I have roughly 10k miles including 15 track days on them. Can't complain. Seems to wear great, grips great, performs well in rain. Substantial improvement to old-er PZeros obviously but I never got to experience them new.
This is the G-meter w the Michelins, looking at that previous post w Pzeros, max G looks the same so I guess I can't claim they grip better:
This is the G-meter w the Michelins, looking at that previous post w Pzeros, max G looks the same so I guess I can't claim they grip better:
#38
Rennlist Member
Discount called me back and said the guys at Michelin headquarters said they don't make this tire in N0 for the Porsche. He brought up to the guys that tirerack has them up. He then told me that the Michelin guy said tirerack is only doing this to make sales off the Porsche guys.
Buncha he said, she said
Buncha he said, she said
#39
Rennlist Member
I've had the non-Porsche approved PS4S in 255/305 since about May (991.1 C4S). I have roughly 10k miles including 15 track days on them. Can't complain. Seems to wear great, grips great, performs well in rain. Substantial improvement to old-er PZeros obviously but I never got to experience them new.
This is the G-meter w the Michelins, looking at that previous post w Pzeros, max G looks the same so I guess I can't claim they grip better:
This is the G-meter w the Michelins, looking at that previous post w Pzeros, max G looks the same so I guess I can't claim they grip better: