onfireTTS

Just shows how wrong your opinion is in styling. Hahahahahaha jk

Indyxc

Your children are always the best looking, that said in the 991 GT3 RS community (I own a 991.1 GT3 RS), the belief is the same as this thread. 991.1 is classic, even the 991.2 is too angular to be classic.

2fcknfst

You're too kind; too fat, too digital, the 991.2 will likely be the last turbo I own.

I have, however, been toying with the idea of a GT4; lightweight, styling and of course, a manual attached to a 4.0l.

The end of the era is upon us...

B Russ

Had the opportunity to get either, chose 991.2. Dont love 992 as much, maybe someday it will hit me like that girl you were friends with and one day it was like Boing!!!!!

Dennis C

This thread is like many here on rennlist. Every time a new generation of the 911 is launched, the owners of the outgoing generation criticize it. It’s too big, it’s too heavy, it has too much tech, the driving experience is too numb, the car I own is the last “real” 911, etc. This is no different from the criticisms I saw over on the 997 boards when the 991 launched.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

Eventually the new model starts to grow on people, and then it ends up in many of their garages. I think all 911 generations are great looking cars. I was proud to own a 996, 997, and now a 991. Who knows? I may own a 992 someday too.

onfireTTS

If they release a Hybrid that is faster/quicker than the Taycan Turbo S GT whatever, and it runs 8.9 in the quarter....i might be tempted to overlook the parts that I can not today. The shifter, cheap looking clock, and cheap looking digital dash with wonky interface issues..........are deal breakers for me for the slight gain in performance....bone stock vs bone stock. I could live with the exterior and added girth even thought they are a downgrade,

2fcknfst

I don't think that's fair; I've been buying and building interesting cars from a wide variety of manufacturers since I got out of scool in 98, and I think that makes me somewhat qualified to comment on how regulation is impacting design, especially since I still own every car I bought with the other exception of two.

The 992 was a victim of crash safety standards legislation, and as such it grew. Porsche was clever in that they could tune the motor to compensate for the increased mass, and they added marketing goodies like full on digital displays etc., but at the end of the day, what I say is accurate to me - I don't want to buy something heavier for performance, if I want that, I'll put a big brake kit and supercharger on my RST. Until then, as I said, I'm considering a GT4, to say, yey me back to where it all started.

My 991 is essentially bone stock, my 996tt is highly modified, and with a manual, it is infinitely more engaging.

Our leadership, and governing law is killing the market and the manufacturers are simply following the rules.

Dennis C

I certainly wasn’t trying to be unfair to anyone or to be critical of anyone. My comments were more of an observation of the common trends among the Porsche community as a whole, not this specific thread.

I agree on regulation impacting design and the fact that it’s not always good. Take the 996 for example - US regulations forced the installation of the “bumperettes” to the car to meet US standards. They were not attractive. Many people removed them for the sleek Euro look.

I too have been buying interesting cars for many years and I completely appreciate your point of view. My first proper sports car weighed a little under 2,500 lbs. It had only lap safety belts. It was rear wheel drive with no ABS, no stability control, and a manual transmission. Those days are long gone…

vtec_

I think the 991 looks better. The 992 looks blobby to me, but id still buy one if i could afford it.

I aint buying no 991 or 992 until I can set aside an extra 30k for a new PDK should it break.

Foosh

The title of this thread is about "appearance," not performance, tech, or anything else. Thus, I expressed my preference that the 991.1 is the most attractive design of the 911 variants introduced since. 991.2 is a close 2nd.

I find many earlier models attractive too. I had 4-5 years for the 992 design to grow on me before deciding to purchase a 991.1. It didn't. Obviously, personal preferences vary greatly.

Dennis C

Yes, I read the title of the thread.

My point was that the newer model is often criticized by the owners of former generations for a variety of reasons. Appearance is certainly one of those reasons. Often times, the new design grows on people and they are less critical of the newer designs. That’s really all I was trying to say. I wasn’t trying to complain about this specific thread, the OP, or any of the comments in the thread. Sorry if anyone was offended by my comments.

Foosh

Yes, your point is often true, but with many it's not. That was my point.

It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with what one owns (cognitive dissonance reduction), as in my case. I chose what I purchased last year based upon what I liked the best. Cost wasn't an issue. I could have chosen any gen up to 992, but I focused my search upon the one I like the best (991.1).

I wasn't even locked in on the Turbo S. Carrera S or GTS was what I was initially looking for.

rodsky

I wasn't offended - at all

I have owned pretty much all of them - except the 992. Started my journey with an 85 Carrera. I love the classics and also progress. I am seriously considering a 992.2 GTS. Not to replace my 991.1 TT but to add to it. I also have a Cayenne being delivered on 7/31. But later this year after they come out, I want to drive one and see if its worth $200K

I think the 991 Turbo range for the price is a ridiculous steal. And it still looks great. If I didn't have one already, I'd buy a 991.2 TT/S and send it to Sam. Its incredible out of the box and without going crazy - you can get a bullet that will outrun a 992 TTS.

Aesthetically we all like different things. I happen to like the 2 PSE tail pipes on the 992 TTS. Reminds me of the 991 GT2RS. I prefer that to mine. Some like the quads. Hey whatever floats your boat. But the 992 TTS is still cool. But don't hate on it just because its expensive . Some of the criticism comes across to me that way..

pfbz

Agree. Though for me, the 991.1 TTS is the sweet spot.

B Russ

Perhaps I have my head in the sand on this, Has there been a rash of PDK failures Im unaware of? Im on my 4th PDK without issue.