Blowing out our 911R
07-06-2017, 12:16 PM
#196
The 991.2 GT3 w/manual has already softened up the 911R prices. The expected announcement of a touring model will likely bring pricing down more. Longer term, I wouldn't be surprised to see values gravitate toward $250-$300k.
I tried to get a 911R too. No joy. However, the new motor in the 991.2 will be worth the wait, assuaging the regret of missing the 911R. I'd prefer a touring model for stealth on the street, but I'm unwilling to risk my current allocation for it. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush...
I tried to get a 911R too. No joy. However, the new motor in the 991.2 will be worth the wait, assuaging the regret of missing the 911R. I'd prefer a touring model for stealth on the street, but I'm unwilling to risk my current allocation for it. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush...
07-06-2017, 12:27 PM
#197
Rennlist Member
07-06-2017, 12:54 PM
#198
Technical Guru
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I imagine he couldn't be happier? The longer this thread stays at the top of the forum the wider the net... The car has the VIN of a limited edition model and ultimately that is the only thing that matters.
Last edited by JasonAndreas; 07-06-2017 at 01:27 PM.
07-06-2017, 01:08 PM
#199
Three Wheelin'
Wait until you own a Mercedes Benz AMG. Then you'll have a better understanding of "Sum of Parts." Mercedes Benz introduced the *43 models and what it is, is the exact same cars from C-Class, E-Class and all other models they have, dropped an okay ECU tune, placed the badge AMG all over the car, and wallah, it is a high performing AMG. Product brand dilution galore 
The "Sum of Parts" on the 911R however is at least "Choice Cut Parts", filet mignon style.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
Good morning wolfmobil. Hope all is well with you. Just be careful when you drive the backroads, sometimes the paparazzi may be following and taking some pics of your 911R. 
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
The "Sum of Parts" on the 911R however is at least "Choice Cut Parts", filet mignon style.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
Sorry. Cars are the sum of their parts.
I don't need to taste a piece of **** to know that I don't want to. I'm not saying the 911 R is a piece of **** but at 400k, I think it is. Humans are gifted with wisdom and reason and we can figure things out on our own using similar experiences.
The reality is; if you own an R you have the self-serving motive to talk it up and prop up it's grossly inflated value due to your bias.
We all know the 911 R is a 991.2 GT3 with a lesser motor minus the wing. Sure there's other differences but that's 95% of it right there. A car is simply the sum of its parts and the 911 R values only happened because flippers speculated it was the last manual GT car. Now that a better manual GT car has been announced in wide availability -- prices are rightly dropping back to reality. Hell -- even the 911 R owners know it privately; Andreas Preuniger talked about how they were writing him letters not to kill the value of their cars
I don't need to taste a piece of **** to know that I don't want to. I'm not saying the 911 R is a piece of **** but at 400k, I think it is. Humans are gifted with wisdom and reason and we can figure things out on our own using similar experiences.
The reality is; if you own an R you have the self-serving motive to talk it up and prop up it's grossly inflated value due to your bias.
We all know the 911 R is a 991.2 GT3 with a lesser motor minus the wing. Sure there's other differences but that's 95% of it right there. A car is simply the sum of its parts and the 911 R values only happened because flippers speculated it was the last manual GT car. Now that a better manual GT car has been announced in wide availability -- prices are rightly dropping back to reality. Hell -- even the 911 R owners know it privately; Andreas Preuniger talked about how they were writing him letters not to kill the value of their cars
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
07-06-2017, 01:10 PM
#200
07-06-2017, 01:27 PM
#202
I'd say the consensus value here has been put out by multiple parties. ~250k which is more like 50k above MSRP due to its limited number plate. Once the 991.2 GT3 RS and/or a touring package comes out I bet we see it settle in that region.
07-06-2017, 01:28 PM
#203
Zero except the few early fires. Trackkar and some others have thousands of track miles and I've yet to see one go.
07-06-2017, 01:29 PM
#204
The fact that Porsche redesigned the top end after the band-aid changes they made leads me to believe that they think there's an issue with it.
07-06-2017, 01:47 PM
#206
07-06-2017, 02:33 PM
#207
Race Director
But - it will not be a special model year for the RS like the .2 RS will be. I think the new engine(if it is as advertised) is a game changer. I think the .1 RS will follow the .1 GT3, in regards, that it will sort of be pushed to the side because the .2 will be the much more desired model for both.
07-06-2017, 03:41 PM
#209
Race Director
Originally Posted by tims16m
solid valve train vs ???. sorry for novice question.
07-06-2017, 05:59 PM
#210
So how have they solved the fine adjustment necessary for solid lifters. I could see that in a race car where the service cycle maybe 1 or 2 races - 500 to 1000 miles, but for a consumer car that may run 10K to 15K miles between service intervals. Things could get pretty ragged before the next adjustment??