randr

^^average speed of ~ 135, time ~ 64s - on streets.

Done TT twice and I wasn't critical of Skippy - I pointed out that the GT4 STI driven by the South Australian in 2016 was faster on the clock which it was in 2016 and for significant parts of 2017. Matts driving was excellent as was his performance in winning GT2 in 2016 and runner up in GT2 2017 to a very well driven ACR Viper.

By the way data provides an objective view and not a subjective one.......always happy to share data, perhaps you should post some

randr

Oh it fits fine - why don't you add something useful, seriously at least try and engage in some level of debate.

You're absolutely right

God no wonder I'm done with Porsche.........and will be moving on from the brand, as many are doing.

However, with your post you proved without a shadow of a doubt that Porsche and Douche are largely interchangeable.

Guest89

August R&T issue has exclusive Ford GT road car instrumented test.

Figures are quite disappointing given the grandiose claims that Ford execs made.

0-60 3.2
0-100 6.6
Qtr 11.1 @ 130

Appears to have a traction problem despite 325 section MPSC2 rears.

DuckieRS

Just for fun (and some footage from Weissach and LM):

neanicu

Nurburgring next on WEC's calendar...

Guest89

Prognosis doesn't sound good.

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/d...ue-this-month/

Petevb

Race Car Engineering had an article that suggested the Porsche was in trouble technically. Porsche only won because Toyota had failures. If they'd been reliable the data suggests that Porsche would need to make up three full seconds to be competitive, and that would require virtually an entirely new car: new battery, hybrid system, chassis and engine.

My suspicion is that dieselgate spoke for those funds...

Guest89

Not sure how closely you follow WEC, but the deficit on pace wasn't that significant. To assert that Porsche only won because ... Is no different than saying that Mercedes only wins in F1 because they have the fastest car. Reliability and serviceability are essential in endurance racing. The 919 is a better car than the TS050, quite obviously. The 919 won Le Mans.

Both Porsche and Toyota have a gentlemans agreement to use the same tubs, for now; all new rules in 2020 make me think Porsche could sit out 2018 and 2019

Petevb

I'm not sure how closely you follow WEC, but the facts speak for themselves. Facts that must be considered by Porsche as they plan for next year.

Obviously Porsche won the day... with a car that spent over an hour in the pits. No one on their team would not admit to that being lucky. Meanwhile Toyota's fastest 210 laps (two thirds of the race) were consistently ~2 seconds faster than Porsche's fastest 210 laps. Planning a race around the same thing happening again next year is planning for failure, particularly as Toyota's teething troubles will be behind them. Porsche knows this, and they know they need pace if they seriously hope to win again.

Reports are that neither a new engine, hybrid system, chassis or battery are planned for next year- if true Porsche has thrown in the towel.

Kobalt

WEC Nürburgring

Qualify
Pole in GTE Pro

2 and 3 in LMP1

Race in 15h43m

Nizer

Why would they ever continue with only one other competitor? Too bad really as they were very cool cars with some amazing tech. As for the alternatives suggested, I've no interest in Formula E and F1 is fiercely competitive and expensive. I would rather see them focus on building a truly competitive GTLM/GT3 platform.

Dieselgate is speaking in more ways than many realize....

rosenbergendo

Sounds like they're done and off to Formula E. They are in NYC this weekend scoping it out. Who would've ever thought Formula E would garner so much manufacturer attention.

enduro911

Would you mind elaborating a bit? I'm pretty sure I know what you're implying but I want to make sure.

The only reason that I could foresee the VW group allowing Porsche and Audi to race in Formula E together is if they are convinced that gasoline powered cars will become a rarity. This stands in contrast to a future that where hybrid vehicles are common, even ones using biofuels. If the latter where to be the case, I would think that Le Mans would be the place to be. If the former were true, Formula E.

Also, going back to Le Mans for a second, Porsche was spending a good deal of time developing their high downforce package for the second half of the season while Toyota debuted theirs later in the season (Spa I think). Also, Toyota spent a great deal of time developing a completely new motor. This is outlined in the June 17 Racecar Engineering magazine. From what I can glean, the engine was a notable step forward and Porsche has not made an attempt to update the 2.0 V4 as significantly. Again, is this budgeting or is this Porsche being Porsche and sticking to what is tried and true?

Petevb

Porsche's CEO recently stated that they expected over half of their cars to be electrified by 2023. This was widely interpreted as hybrid, though between the announced Mission E and Macan EV they will have 60,000 units capacity for 100% electric before then (and possibly an electric version of their new crossover in addition?).

My rough read is that they hope to sell nearly as many EVs as Hybrids within 6 years, the balance being gasoline. Given that expected explosive pace of growth in electric the focus on Formula E seems explainable.

How dropping the hybrid version of the 911 playing into all of this I'm not quite sure.

ipse dixit

Because electric motors are the future.