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#1006
emotion inside ride rollers - best piece you can buy yourself to get in great training, not good training, but great training in bad weather. been sub 25 here in north jersey for like 10days, but im able to get in 1:45 of intervals maybe 2 days in a row, rest a day, 2 days in a row, rest a day. mentally annoying, and missing the outside, but its a nice 8 here today. anything over 27 ill hit the outside. but 8 is just unworkable. lung damage stuff right there.
i live about 7 miles, about a 20 minute warmup from a state park which is like disney land for bikes, but its also about 7 degrees colder than the temps where i start. the conversations about arizona living have been gaining steam in my house, but first, my youngest has to graduate high school in 5 years.
then we depart NJ
i live about 7 miles, about a 20 minute warmup from a state park which is like disney land for bikes, but its also about 7 degrees colder than the temps where i start. the conversations about arizona living have been gaining steam in my house, but first, my youngest has to graduate high school in 5 years.
then we depart NJ
#1007
Originally Posted by spg993tt
the conversations about arizona living have been gaining steam in my house, but first, my youngest has to graduate high school in 5 years.
then we depart NJ
then we depart NJ
#1008
Nizer is that duxbury harbor? I cant get motivated to ride in anything below 20deg. Plus my 2 teenage boys had me playing pond hockey for 3 hours yesterday and it looks like they are dragging me out today. My boys are starting to do indoor training at cycle life studio next to the bike barn next week with their mountain bike team. I may go with them so i can try and hang with them this summer. Hard to get the free time with work but I’m getting older and they are getting faster. Lol
#1009
Hi,
I haven't ridden either of these bikes but since my local shop is a Trek dealer I looked at the Emonda SLR9 but discovered because the integrated seat post the bike frame won't fit into my travel case. I am assuming you want to take your new bike to Europe this summer so make sure this is not an issue. I think you will be on a smaller frame from what I remember but check this out.
When I went to Europe last summer I expected to see many riders on disc brake bikes but found just the opposite. There are very few riders there, from my observation that use disc brakes. A 2-edged sword as I see it, disc brakes are better in wet conditions but there is a weight penality. On a 12 KM col at 7%, that adds up.
I have been riding a rim brake Canyon Ultimate CF SLX with eTap for 3 years now (helps to have a good friend at SRAM who set me up with a pre-production drivetrain) and this is best bike I have ever ridden. I am in no hurry to go to disc brakes even though I love riding in the mountains.
I haven't ridden either of these bikes but since my local shop is a Trek dealer I looked at the Emonda SLR9 but discovered because the integrated seat post the bike frame won't fit into my travel case. I am assuming you want to take your new bike to Europe this summer so make sure this is not an issue. I think you will be on a smaller frame from what I remember but check this out.
When I went to Europe last summer I expected to see many riders on disc brake bikes but found just the opposite. There are very few riders there, from my observation that use disc brakes. A 2-edged sword as I see it, disc brakes are better in wet conditions but there is a weight penality. On a 12 KM col at 7%, that adds up.
I have been riding a rim brake Canyon Ultimate CF SLX with eTap for 3 years now (helps to have a good friend at SRAM who set me up with a pre-production drivetrain) and this is best bike I have ever ridden. I am in no hurry to go to disc brakes even though I love riding in the mountains.
I will definitely keep in mind regarding the seat post having difficulty fitting into a travel case.
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Hi,
I haven't ridden either of these bikes but since my local shop is a Trek dealer I looked at the Emonda SLR9 but discovered because the integrated seat post the bike frame won't fit into my travel case. I am assuming you want to take your new bike to Europe this summer so make sure this is not an issue. I think you will be on a smaller frame from what I remember but check this out.
When I went to Europe last summer I expected to see many riders on disc brake bikes but found just the opposite. There are very few riders there, from my observation that use disc brakes. A 2-edged sword as I see it, disc brakes are better in wet conditions but there is a weight penality. On a 12 KM col at 7%, that adds up.
I have been riding a rim brake Canyon Ultimate CF SLX with eTap for 3 years now (helps to have a good friend at SRAM who set me up with a pre-production drivetrain) and this is best bike I have ever ridden. I am in no hurry to go to disc brakes even though I love riding in the mountains.
I haven't ridden either of these bikes but since my local shop is a Trek dealer I looked at the Emonda SLR9 but discovered because the integrated seat post the bike frame won't fit into my travel case. I am assuming you want to take your new bike to Europe this summer so make sure this is not an issue. I think you will be on a smaller frame from what I remember but check this out.
When I went to Europe last summer I expected to see many riders on disc brake bikes but found just the opposite. There are very few riders there, from my observation that use disc brakes. A 2-edged sword as I see it, disc brakes are better in wet conditions but there is a weight penality. On a 12 KM col at 7%, that adds up.
I have been riding a rim brake Canyon Ultimate CF SLX with eTap for 3 years now (helps to have a good friend at SRAM who set me up with a pre-production drivetrain) and this is best bike I have ever ridden. I am in no hurry to go to disc brakes even though I love riding in the mountains.
will have to look into canyon. every canyon i seer around here are ridden by really fast riders. how fast?... they pass me, i got off saddle to chase, 10 pedal strokes.... they pull away... " WTF am i thinking..... i might as well be chasing a ducati 1299" sit down and do my own thing...
#1011
hum.... i really like rim brakes, my eecyclworks is fine. but i am not a good descender ( i much rather climb all day and never descend) and over brake. the blackprince pads only last me about 1000 miles. and in the wet, i simply cannot stop; i have resorted to a toyota corolla, a tree, an uphill embankment to get myself stopped (dont laugh....) and all the talk about disc sort of got me excited on trying one. u know i need excuses to buy more crap. i already have two identical ultra light (when one in shop, i ride the other)
will have to look into canyon. every canyon i seer around here are ridden by really fast riders. how fast?... they pass me, i got off saddle to chase, 10 pedal strokes.... they pull away... " WTF am i thinking..... i might as well be chasing a ducati 1299" sit down and do my own thing...
will have to look into canyon. every canyon i seer around here are ridden by really fast riders. how fast?... they pass me, i got off saddle to chase, 10 pedal strokes.... they pull away... " WTF am i thinking..... i might as well be chasing a ducati 1299" sit down and do my own thing...
Cipo has Dura Ace direct mount brakes and has superb braking, on all the wheels. In my view, there is no upside to disc braking, as direct mount provides all the power and great feel.
I hope all my future frames to have direct mount.
Best, w
#1012
hum.... i really like rim brakes, my eecyclworks is fine. but i am not a good descender ( i much rather climb all day and never descend) and over brake. the blackprince pads only last me about 1000 miles. and in the wet, i simply cannot stop; i have resorted to a toyota corolla, a tree, an uphill embankment to get myself stopped (dont laugh....) and all the talk about disc sort of got me excited on trying one. u know i need excuses to buy more crap. i already have two identical ultra light (when one in shop, i ride the other)
will have to look into canyon. every canyon i seer around here are ridden by really fast riders. how fast?... they pass me, i got off saddle to chase, 10 pedal strokes.... they pull away... " WTF am i thinking..... i might as well be chasing a ducati 1299" sit down and do my own thing...
will have to look into canyon. every canyon i seer around here are ridden by really fast riders. how fast?... they pass me, i got off saddle to chase, 10 pedal strokes.... they pull away... " WTF am i thinking..... i might as well be chasing a ducati 1299" sit down and do my own thing...
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I ride a Tarmac, a Parlee Z0, a Cipo NK1K, a Passoni and a Focus CX bike with SRAM Red disc brakes. All on a variety of carbon wheels - Zipp 454NSW, Lightweight, Gokiso.
Cipo has Dura Ace direct mount brakes and has superb braking, on all the wheels. In my view, there is no upside to disc braking, as direct mount provides all the power and great feel.
I hope all my future frames to have direct mount.
Best, w
Cipo has Dura Ace direct mount brakes and has superb braking, on all the wheels. In my view, there is no upside to disc braking, as direct mount provides all the power and great feel.
I hope all my future frames to have direct mount.
Best, w
and congrats on ur R!
I had NK1k with super record direct mount. and the 2018 tarmac safe also doexrr mount now. direct are way better than the old center mount stuff there is enough stopping power except when raining and mostly i’m just inteimguwdnwith disc i had rhem
on mtb but curious on road.
how do u like nk1k. of the rb800, rb1k and nk1k, I like
rb1k the most. i have 4000 miles or so on each frame. all had super record
and mielenstein. rb1k has insanelynshirt head rubs. I need35mm stack but it was fast. nk1k is not as aggro geo as rb1k
and heavier.
I would try the newer model Enve wheels (2017) which have an updated brake track. I am getting good braking on a set of 3.4s with the eecycleworks brakes and stock enve pads even in the wet. It is dramatically better in the wet than other carbon wheels I have - Reynolds assaults and Roval wheels with smooth brake tracks.
will try latest 3.4
provlem is with milenstein so narrow any other wheels
i run i
habe to take our
shim kn caliper to get wheels in ugh
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another rider
and congrats on ur R!
I had NK1k with super record direct mount. and the 2018 tarmac safe also doexrr mount now. direct are way better than the old center mount stuff there is enough stopping power except when raining and mostly i’m just inteimguwdnwith disc i had rhem
on mtb but curious on road.
how do u like nk1k. of the rb800, rb1k and nk1k, I like
rb1k the most. i have 4000 miles or so on each frame. all had super record
and mielenstein. rb1k has insanelynshirt head rubs. I need35mm stack but it was fast. nk1k is not as aggro geo as rb1k
and heavier.
provlem is with milenstein so narrow any other wheels
i run i
habe to take our
shim kn caliper to get wheels in ugh
I agree regarding the brake setup with different wheels - my Obermayers are throwing it all out of kilt, too.
The new brake track on 454NSW works impeccably even in the rain.
I like NK1K a lot, it is the most solid bike of all. I crashed with it into a friend when our little peloton had to make an emergency stop. Only superfluous cosmetic damage. It does not go well with the Lightweights, the ride is too rough. It could be down to the 25mm tubes. NK1K is similar to Tarmac in that it is a superb all-rounder, with a lean towards flat riding, whereas Tarmac leans more towards climbing. NK1K with Gokiso is sublime.
Bringing this back to the topic of value - it is the law of diminishing returns, however to those that care to learn and appreciate the nuance in performance differential and can afford it, it is very rewarding to experience it, whether in bikes, wheels, hi-fi equipment, anything else (gastronomy comes to mind) or, ultimately - Porsches.
Best, w
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agree on nk1k for rolling terrain while tarmac for climbing I do about 100’/mile.
so new zipp nsw and new enve 3.4
I did have lwt on nk1k with 23mm tubular vittoria corsa. not super smooth but doesn’t beat me up too bad so I let it
go. look forward to try new hoops
agree on nk1k for rolling terrain while tarmac for climbing I do about 100’/mile.
so new zipp nsw and new enve 3.4
I did have lwt on nk1k with 23mm tubular vittoria corsa. not super smooth but doesn’t beat me up too bad so I let it
go. look forward to try new hoops
#1017
Would love to pick your brain on the Canyon. I am looking at Canyon CF SLX disc but have to wait till feb as they are backordered. I considered taking the Sram Etap but just can't get myself to go back to Sram after switching to Shimano.
Ironically, the disc bike will not be available on the top of the line DA and only as an Ultegra or as an ETap. Very excited about the bike. I also have a 2016 Cervelo R5 that will be used for hills and mixing rides. Where I live, it's primarily flat so the Canyon would work great in getting some additional speed.
Ironically, the disc bike will not be available on the top of the line DA and only as an Ultegra or as an ETap. Very excited about the bike. I also have a 2016 Cervelo R5 that will be used for hills and mixing rides. Where I live, it's primarily flat so the Canyon would work great in getting some additional speed.
Last summer I was able to finally test ride a bike. Our local shop sponsored a Giant factory test day. The company reps actually had the largest TCR Advanced frame test bike. All the bikes had disc brakes so I was eager to try these out. Much to my dismay I discovered that my left heal was routinely hitting the wider left side chain stay because of the rear disc brake. Not sure if I would have this problem with other disc bike frames but I certainly wouldn't buy one without a test ride after that experience.
#1020
Originally Posted by mooty
never going back to mecahnical shifting.
had EPS and now Di2. will try E tap next
the build without wires is certainly cleaner.
had EPS and now Di2. will try E tap next
the build without wires is certainly cleaner.