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Old 12-15-2019, 07:26 PM
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Stopped for lunch at Mooty's "cave". This place blew my mind. It's crazy.

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If I am ever in SF, I will see if I can get an invite to Mooty's cave. Looks absolutely amazing.
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Originally Posted by Bxstr
If I am ever in SF, I will see if I can get an invite to Mooty's cave. Looks absolutely amazing.
don't do it. he's a drug dealer
Old 12-15-2019, 08:44 PM
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don't do it. he's a drug dealer
he sells the hardcore stuff, like Perlon ROW GT3 seats.
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2100 miles of daily driving in ~3 weeks of Illinois winter. This certainly brightens up a mediocre commute
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Old 12-16-2019, 12:18 AM
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^ that is they way to do it



just shy of 5000 miles in 19 months
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Old 12-16-2019, 10:00 AM
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Re Stage Rd: why is there gravel?

They do this awful “oil and chips” or “tar and chips” on our roads. They put down a layer of tar or oil followed by a layer of ground up rocks they call chips. It’s usually finer than gravel but still hell for anyone that likes their paint. And for motorcycles - yikes!

they CLAIM it extends the life of the road so paving lasts longer. But I thinks it’s BS and someone wrangled a contract long ago and has found a way to hold on.

After a period where traffic embeds the chips - they re-stripe the road if it had painted lines before the process began.
we’ve seen newly paved beautiful roads “tar and chipped” and it’s very frustrating. There are times we drive well out of our way to avoid the mess.
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There are many a road in Texas that are “chipseal”. Not only do they do a number on your car and it’s paint but they make for a brutal jaunt on a road bike. Nothing comparable I am sure to the cobbles in Roubaix but it’s got to be close.
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Originally Posted by needmoregarage
Re Stage Rd: why is there gravel?

They do this awful “oil and chips” or “tar and chips” on our roads. They put down a layer of tar or oil followed by a layer of ground up rocks they call chips. It’s usually finer than gravel but still hell for anyone that likes their paint. And for motorcycles - yikes!

they CLAIM it extends the life of the road so paving lasts longer. But I thinks it’s BS and someone wrangled a contract long ago and has found a way to hold on.

After a period where traffic embeds the chips - they re-stripe the road if it had painted lines before the process began.
we’ve seen newly paved beautiful roads “tar and chipped” and it’s very frustrating. There are times we drive well out of our way to avoid the mess.
You mean you don't like it when summer temps melt the tar until it bubbles?
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^no not my kind of weather.
We don’t get temps like that here. That must be awful on several counts!
Old 12-16-2019, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by needmoregarage
Re Stage Rd: why is there gravel?

They do this awful “oil and chips” or “tar and chips” on our roads. They put down a layer of tar or oil followed by a layer of ground up rocks they call chips. It’s usually finer than gravel but still hell for anyone that likes their paint. And for motorcycles - yikes!
Originally Posted by MWA1977
There are many a road in Texas that are “chipseal”. Not only do they do a number on your car and it’s paint but they make for a brutal jaunt on a road bike. Nothing comparable I am sure to the cobbles in Roubaix but it’s got to be close.
It must be some kind of a scam. I have yet to find a person that doesn't absolutely hate it. But without govt, who would build & maintain the roads. lol...

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It’s a serious hazard for cyclists (motor and non).
We’ve called our highway dept and township multiple times to no avail.
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Stage Rd out here is very popular with bicyclists, so they must be very upset about all the gravel. I guess I'll have to avoid it for a while. In addition the body paint, I get small chips on my wheels, which I hate.
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Originally Posted by Chris88
Stage Rd out here is very popular with bicyclists, so they must be very upset about all the gravel. I guess I'll have to avoid it for a while. In addition the body paint, I get small chips on my wheels, which I hate.
yes im on stage on bike often. when they did this number I almost low sided. i’m no civil engineer but I can’t see the benefit of it

well, it does force cars, bikes and moto all to slow down.

i stopped driving on stage road three years ago. there are better roads.
Old 12-16-2019, 02:15 PM
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They do that crap here in Wisconsin too. Nothing like taking one of your normal routes and half way through hitting fresh chip seal. Ugh


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