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Old 05-15-2017, 09:39 PM
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Gulf Orange, Signal, Voodoo, Gulf Blue would be my top to bottom. Arena Red is not for me at all, sorry.
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Originally Posted by bronson7
Gulf Orange, Signal, Voodoo, Gulf Blue would be my top to bottom. Arena Red is not for me at all, sorry.
+1 its an "old" color IMO
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I would definitely keep the 993...
I'll probably sell my 6GT3 when the new .2 GT3 arrives, I'm also hoping to join the PTS list, though pcna still not opening any slots.
Canadian peso too weak for me to upgrade my 458 to the Speciale ! Congrats on yours!!
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Originally Posted by Larry Cable
+1 its an "old" color IMO
Looks good on the cars of its era, but not in 2017.

However, I actually feel that way about many of the crazy PTS colors you guys love, which I think look fantastic on p-cars from the 70s, but not on modern Porsches.
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Originally Posted by Larry Cable
+1 its an "old" color IMO
I used to hate it, thought it looked like it belonged on a cab with luxor interior and gold badges. Then I took a closer look at it on a car with the right accents. It really is a beautiful color that looks good in any light. The color changes, but it still looks good. There's a 2017 Targa in the classifieds that shows this color in multiple lights and it is just gorgeous. I found a pic of a GT3 with similar color wheels (platinum satin) and black interior and it looked great. Still, it's a color that still says luxury a little too much for me to likely want it on a GT3.
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Thanks for all the feedback - it's been helpful!

For PTS I was thinking Voo Doo blue but now I'm unsure. My local sales manager advised against Mexico as he believes it's become "too common" for a PTS car. Decisions decisions.....
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BWM always used the imola red, what color would be close, or is it an option on the sample sheet?
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Originally Posted by Dougr743
BWM always used the imola red, what color would be close, or is it an option on the sample sheet?
Imola red is an iconic BMW red. Of the current GT3 palette reds, it is closer to Carmine than Guards. If you are looking for an Imola-like red, Guards may look too orange to you. If you qualify for PTS, you may also want to look at Rosso Corsa/Y81 (classic Ferrari red). Imola red is not approved for PTS (although, as an aside, Imola yellow is).
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Originally Posted by sportscentury
Imola red is not approved for PTS (although, as an aside, Imola yellow is).
Reid: 'Imola Yellow' is indeed mentioned in the PTS
list. But interestingly enough, it was rejected & not
approved for PTS - neither for the 991/718 nor the
Macan/Panamera! The color was rejected first for
the Macan/Panamera. But the color remained under
feasibility study re: the 991/718 for a while longer.
However, by April 24, 2017, it was reported as also
having failed to be approved for those Porsche models!
So it is officially two strikes, you are 'out'!




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Originally Posted by bobbyd
Thanks for all the feedback - it's been helpful!

For PTS I was thinking Voo Doo blue but now I'm unsure. My local sales manager advised against Mexico as he believes it's become "too common" for a PTS car. Decisions decisions.....
Mexico is common for a reason.

That's like a fiat sa telling you not to order RC because it's too common!
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Eduardo, this might be a dumb question, but I'll ask it anyways. What tests and results must be needed to pass the PTS feasibility study?
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Originally Posted by Z356
Reid: 'Imola Yellow' is indeed mentioned in the PTS
list. But interestingly enough, it was rejected & not
approved for PTS - neither for the 991/718 nor the
Macan/Panamera! The color was rejected first for
the Macan/Panamera. But the color remained under
feasibility study re: the 991/718 for a while longer.
However, by April 24, 2017, it was reported as also
having failed to be approved for those Porsche models!
So it is officially two strikes, you are 'out'!




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Eduardo
Scottsdale
Thanks for catching that, Ed. My eyes failed to scroll to the right. I only noticed the color on the list because I was looking to see if, by chance, Imola red was recently approved.
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Originally Posted by bronson7
Eduardo, this might be a dumb question...
What tests and results must be needed to
pass the PTS feasibility study?
Not a dumb question at all! The three or
so OEM paint suppliers to Porsche are in
charge of the feasibility testing for PTS.
The most critical one is sun UV fade tests.




Another involves making sure the color &
its appropiate primer is able to fully cover
& blend with each different material use
in the exterior surface of the car. So it has
to be compatible with steel, plastic, alloy
metals...and carbon fiber & magnesium in
some models.

The warranty on paint is taken very seriously
by the auto makers, especially a luxury brand
like Porsche. And any issues that come up
with the paint, especially during the long
warranty period, could represent a costly
charge to the profitability of the business!
Frankly, I am surprised PAG allows so many
colors to be offered as PTS. It is a huge
liability for the relative small revenue the
option generates!

Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
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Interesting pic of all the paint samples. Any idea where this would've taken place?
Thank you for the explanation.
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Originally Posted by bronson7
Interesting pic of all the paint samples.
Any idea where this would've taken place?
Thank you for the explanation.
That one in my photo was taken in Arizona.
In the US, AZ & the State of Florida are very
popular for this type of testing!



Interestingly, there are companies in both
states that can test a variety of UV & heat
exposures for a multitude of clients that
goes beyond auto paint. It includes plastics,
leathers, etc. used by car manufacturers in
regular production.




Like paint, these also need to be tested against
UV & the 'elements':

http://www.q-lab.com/test-services/arizona.aspx

http://www.q-lab.com/test-services/florida.aspx

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The top auto paint suppliers to the German
auto industry include Axalta (Spies Hecker,
Dupont Coatings), BASF (Glasurit), PPG &
AkzoNobel (Sikkens). Porsche has at least
three of these companies as suppliers at
any one time. And the technical staff of
these auto paint specialists would be the
ones tasked with conducting the feasibility
tests of a customer request for a particular
PTS color for his or her Porsche. Where
exactly that testing is done I really do not
know.

Saludos,
Eduardo
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