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Old 04-16-2017 | 10:39 AM
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This may not be popular (which feels weird saying, since we're on *the* 911R forum), but I'd take the R in a heartbeat. I have no interest in any auto tranny sports car and have never much liked Ferrari styling. People may be paying too much for Rs in the opinion of some, but it's a beautiful, highly capable machine by everything I can gather. As an aside, I recently received a letter from Porsche asking me how I was enjoying my 911R. Talk about pouring salt on the wound.
I think the same guy who designed the top end on the 991.1 GT3 wrote that database program.
Old 04-16-2017 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by robmypro
I think the same guy who designed the top end on the 991.1 GT3 wrote that database program.


It was from Andrew Pine. I sent a note back to him knowing full well it would simply be tossed in the trash.
Old 04-16-2017 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sportscentury
This may not be popular (which feels weird saying, since we're on *the* 911R forum), but I'd take the R in a heartbeat. I have no interest in any auto tranny sports car and have never much liked Ferrari styling. People may be paying too much for Rs in the opinion of some, but it's a beautiful, highly capable machine by everything I can gather. As an aside, I recently received a letter from Porsche asking me how I was enjoying my 911R. Talk about pouring salt on the wound.

For the R's MSRP $$$, it's a GREAT car. A clear no brainer. That's the frustrating part, not an option.

At these inflated flipped prices, not worth it in my opinion. For $400K, better options in my opinion.
Old 04-16-2017 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by STG
For the R's MSRP $$$, it's a GREAT car. A clear no brainer. That's the frustrating part, not an option.

At these inflated flipped prices, not worth it in my opinion. For $400K, better options in my opinion.
To me, no car is worth $400k. Come to think of it, make that $100k. And I love cars and can afford to spend on them multiples of those amounts.
Old 04-16-2017 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1
To me, no car is worth $400k. Come to think of it, make that $100k. And I love cars and can afford to spend on them multiples of those amounts.
Agree to disagree.

The joy in experiencing my CGT wide open during a 3-4 upshift is worth well over 100k to me...

And when an escalade is 96k then i am good on spending 200 for my R
Old 04-16-2017 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
The pressure some of you guys put on yourselves is mind boggling. There are so many amazing cars to drive.

Wait in line- but remember you're supposed to live your life in between. So, go to a movie. Do a racing school. Hell maybe donate 5,000 bucks to a charity. Pay down your house 25k. Buy something else and negotiate for it. Don't give it to pay ADM to a jerk dealer.
can't agree more, well said CJ
Old 04-16-2017 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1
To me, no car is worth $400k. Come to think of it, make that $100k. And I love cars and can afford to spend on them multiples of those amounts.
And to me, no boat is worth $10 million, and no diamond ring $15 million, all personal opinions of how to spend your $$.

A piece of artwork? $100 million?

You where I'm going

Just was making the point the R is overpriced at $400K for what you get. $200K sure, and that's MSRP where Porsche sill makes $$ on it.
Old 04-16-2017 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
The pressure some of you guys put on yourselves is mind boggling. There are so many amazing cars to drive.

Wait in line- but remember you're supposed to live your life in between. So, go to a movie. Do a racing school. Hell maybe donate 5,000 bucks to a charity. Pay down your house 25k. Buy something else and negotiate for it. Don't give it to pay ADM to a jerk dealer.
Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
Agree to disagree.

The joy in experiencing my CGT wide open during a 3-4 upshift is worth well over 100k to me...

And when an escalade is 96k then i am good on spending 200 for my R
For both

I certainly get the passion but the self created stress seems a bit silly.

Bikes (road and dirt) sure provide high joy/$$. Course, I would love to have/drive a CGT if I could afford one.
Old 04-16-2017 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by STG
And to me, no boat is worth $10 million, and no diamond ring $15 million, all personal opinions of how to spend your $$.

A piece of artwork? $100 million?

You where I'm going

Just was making the point the R is overpriced at $400K for what you get. $200K sure, and that's MSRP where Porsche sill makes $$ on it.
So much of it has to do with your current financial situation. It is not that the R is really overpriced, but that it is more than my financial situation could warrant. The stretch I would have to make to buy one would be too much relative to the incremental enjoyment increase I'd get. But if you have $20+ million sitting in the bank, maybe getting one is a no-brainer?
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Originally Posted by robmypro
I think the same guy who designed the top end on the 991.1 GT3 wrote that database program.
lmao
Old 04-16-2017 | 03:35 PM
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I certainly get the passion but the self created stress seems a bit silly.

Bikes (road and dirt) sure provide high joy/$$. Course, I would love to have/drive a CGT if I could afford one.
Riding my KTM 250SX on a motocross track is the cheapest, scariest, most fun and most technical track day Possible
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Makes me wonder about the average age of buyer for the 991R?

Feels like it was targeted towards the "older" enthusiasts of the GT family?
Old 04-16-2017 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
Riding my KTM 250SX on a motocross track is the cheapest, scariest, most fun and most technical track day Possible
Yup, you just can't compare bikes and cars. After tracking motos for years, I don't think cars will ever give me that type of rush on the track. I rode passenger a couple of times in cars on the track and it wasn't even remotely close to being on a moto. The physical sensation of manipulating a moto around the track is like ballet on speed. Always been attracted to it like a drug. I get a similar, albeit much slower, feeling when I play ice hockey. Cars have never been able to give me that same visceral pleasure. Riding a $25,000 literbike at speed on a track is more fun and invigorating than any million dollar car could ever be.
Old 04-16-2017 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by robmypro
So much of it has to do with your current financial situation. It is not that the R is really overpriced, but that it is more than my financial situation could warrant. The stretch I would have to make to buy one would be too much relative to the incremental enjoyment increase I'd get. But if you have $20+ million sitting in the bank, maybe getting one is a no-brainer?
The value equation doesn't change for me in the slightest- 1 911R does not equal a 991.2 GT3 + a 991.2 GT3 RS.
Old 04-16-2017 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Yup, you just can't compare bikes and cars. After tracking motos for years, I don't think cars will ever give me that type of rush on the track. I rode passenger a couple of times in cars on the track and it wasn't even remotely close to being on a moto. The physical sensation of manipulating a moto around the track is like ballet on speed. Always been attracted to it like a drug. I get a similar, albeit much slower, feeling when I play ice hockey. Cars have never been able to give me that same visceral pleasure. Riding a $25,000 literbike at speed on a track is more fun and invigorating than any million dollar car could ever be.
The crashing side of the motorcycle track work is what reduced my appetite for that adrenaline :-(


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