Tangerine

If for looks, absolutely. But the Golf E is just an electric motor stuck in a Golf chassis. The i3 is from scratch--super light body, no legacy to determine wheelbase or anything. It's hard to explain until you've spent a bit of time with one. To me it's even more "future car" than a Tesla. Not in terms of self driving, just how efficient and tight the whole package is.

Hard to explain even, because many things you only notice after you get used to them and then go back to a traditional car. Take the turn stalk for example--it doesn't physically snap into place when you indicate a turn. It softly clicks, all digital. It knows if you push it a bit to signal, or more to stay in turn mode. But it's all digital, no "oh I turned the wheel and it unlocks the turn stalk", it just intelligently turns it off when it measures that much turn. Same result, but it feels more modern.

The instant torque, the instant braking when you let off the accelerator. No hesitation, just reaction. Brake lights triggered by the deceleration of the car, not the brake pedal. (though it also lights it up) Even the dumb shifting wart--hated it at first, then when I saw a Tesla again I was like "why does this high tech car have a gear shift stalk"?

I really wonder if they made it strange looking inside and out just to make sure it wouldn't get too popular and compete with their normal cars. I think companies like BMW and hopefully Porsche are going to do EVs better than Tesla when they get around to it.

I love manual cars. I hate automatics. Teslas are ok--fast but big and heavy. The i3 (not mine, my wife's) I actually enjoy driving. Drove a brand new 4 series the other day when the i3 was in for yearly service, felt like primitive tech next to the i3. Just not tight and responsive, like a boat after just getting out of the i3.

Not even sure why I'm rambling about this here--many people dismiss the i3. I'm saying as someone who loves my manual GTS as my main car that the i3 is a very fun "other" car compared to much of what is out there. And its potential gives us a hint of what Porsche can do with a "from scratch" EV, none of these "stick a hybrid along with a gas engine" nonsense things.

Drifting

Agree with tangerine.

electric cars built from the ground up can be fairly fun to drive right now, and things are integrated, because there are not compromises made for a previous drivetrain/electronics such as a hybrid, and a hybrid by definition is a big compromise, which is why all non-super car hybrids totally suck to drive, but there are several decent, relatively affordable all electric cars.

This is why I plan to pair my GT3 with an all electric car to be used for daily driving and errands etc.

A hybrid doesn't interest me at all with the poor current technology and driving experience, unless you pay a supercar price.

Whoopsy

I merely speak the truth. The .1 GT3RS is so sorted out it's unbelievable, I have had it at Leipzig, Portimao, Paul Ricard, my own track Area 27 and even on ice.

The car just inspire confidence when pushed, it begs one to push it harder and harder.

Mine is gone now, but when I bought it, I fully planned to use it as my track weapon, but as it turns out, I had gotten myself a GT4 Clubsport and that made the GT3RS expendable. It only lost to a pure race car.

TRAKCAR

I can keep up with a GT4CS ;-)

But I hear you on the full cage.
If I'd only trailer it would be GT4CS

I would prefer a PDKS CUP. Maybe one day.

camjan

my dick is hard tho

mcsmcs1

WTF? That is super creepy next to that dentist photo!

camjan

so whats the verdict on miami blue being offered? Do you think a lot of them will be spec'd in that color?

mcsmcs1

yeah, you're going to see plenty of Miami Blue and Chalk

Whoopsy

And thanks to your great DOT, we Canadians can't even order the factory half cage.

And no, I don't trust aftermarket half cage, Porsche uses different body in white for ROW cars than North American cars, because the former have reinforcements at the cage attachment points.

TRAKCAR

At least my windows will be open when I crash...

Ugh, idiots in chargers the track and Porsche willfully holding back safety they could perfectly fine sell for "offroad only".

bronson7

Whoopsy, what are your thoughts on us seeing a GT4RS?

997rs4.0

Whoopsy has already put it all out there. Just need to add up his posts.
991.1rs won't be the last N/A RS. That's all I can say.
For now we should focus on gt2rs. Can't wait. AP made clear there won't be a gt4rs in the near future.

Whoopsy

Judging from Porsche's track record on naming GT cars.................

The GT4-class racing series are picking up steam worldwide, and Porsche already had a GT4 race car that races worldwide. Never say never, but seems likely.

If Porsche do indeed migrate their GT3-class race cars to turbo engines, then the 992 gen GT3 could very well be turbo-ed too, and it would open up a previously occupied performance space for say a GT4RS.

I guess AP is still correct in saying there won't be a GT4RS in the near future, as Porsche Motorsport hasn't decided whether they will go turbo or not.

Apolo1

No doubt the 2RS will an epic track day car. But love the 911 Turbos, have had one as DD for over 30 years, really looking forward to the LE Turbo S.

Chris3963

Only 500 will be made and it's cosmetics only.