Talk me off the ledge...
08-21-2016, 04:44 PM
#46
Im pretty sure if you put this into an excel spreadsheet and did the math, this decision would prove to be 100% emotional. In other words, we can talk ourselves into pretty much anything, and this appears to be one of those times.
08-21-2016, 06:39 PM
#49
Rennlist Member
Would never give up a GT3 for a GTR. Just not comparable.
I used to say that I would never buy a 14' GT3 for the obvious reasons, but now I'm saying I wouldn't buy it period in any model year. I, like you, wouldn't want to deal with all the potential engine issues.
That said, you've already purchased it and *it is* an incredible car despite its anxiety provoking issues. Selling now will only accelerate any financial loses, so keep it, enjoy it, drive the **** out it, then move on to the hopefully more reliable 991.2 GT3
I used to say that I would never buy a 14' GT3 for the obvious reasons, but now I'm saying I wouldn't buy it period in any model year. I, like you, wouldn't want to deal with all the potential engine issues.
That said, you've already purchased it and *it is* an incredible car despite its anxiety provoking issues. Selling now will only accelerate any financial loses, so keep it, enjoy it, drive the **** out it, then move on to the hopefully more reliable 991.2 GT3
08-21-2016, 07:34 PM
#50
I wouldn't dispute anyone's personal experience w/GT3 engine issues but to claim that's a proxy for what everyone else will experience is a disservice to the car and the brand. Even Nick Murray was smart enough to know his "Lemon" was an outlier. He has since bought another 911. Granted, if you want to track your GT3 for 100 hours, I'd be subscribed to the relevant engine threads. For everyone else, I'm not convinced this motor will be any less reliable than any other GT3 driven on the road.
Human nature is to focus on the problems rather than praise an absence of them. If it were otherwise, some balance might be restored to the motor's reputation if you just digested Rennlist. From my read of threads detailing some of the issues and Porsche's response to them, I think the factory is doing an admirable job. Unfortunately, I have the sense there's a "no good deed goes unpunished" attitude, which I think is unfortunate. Perhaps I should start a new thread with the title "My GT3 ran flawlessly today."
To the OP: Take what you read in context with all the positive, long-term experience the MAJORITY of GT3 owners have had. In terms of the financial risk, the car's resale has been better than ANY Porsche I've owned. That could change, of course, but I see no hard evidence that it will.
Human nature is to focus on the problems rather than praise an absence of them. If it were otherwise, some balance might be restored to the motor's reputation if you just digested Rennlist. From my read of threads detailing some of the issues and Porsche's response to them, I think the factory is doing an admirable job. Unfortunately, I have the sense there's a "no good deed goes unpunished" attitude, which I think is unfortunate. Perhaps I should start a new thread with the title "My GT3 ran flawlessly today."
To the OP: Take what you read in context with all the positive, long-term experience the MAJORITY of GT3 owners have had. In terms of the financial risk, the car's resale has been better than ANY Porsche I've owned. That could change, of course, but I see no hard evidence that it will.
08-21-2016, 08:38 PM
#52
Instructor
Thread Starter
I wouldn't dispute anyone's personal experience w/GT3 engine issues but to claim that's a proxy for what everyone else will experience is a disservice to the car and the brand. Even Nick Murray was smart enough to know his "Lemon" was an outlier. He has since bought another 911. Granted, if you want to track your GT3 for 100 hours, I'd be subscribed to the relevant engine threads. For everyone else, I'm not convinced this motor will be any less reliable than any other GT3 driven on the road. Human nature is to focus on the problems rather than praise an absence of them. If it were otherwise, some balance might be restored to the motor's reputation if you just digested Rennlist. From my read of threads detailing some of the issues and Porsche's response to them, I think the factory is doing an admirable job. Unfortunately, I have the sense there's a "no good deed goes unpunished" attitude, which I think is unfortunate. Perhaps I should start a new thread with the title "My GT3 ran flawlessly today." To the OP: Take what you read in context with all the positive, long-term experience the MAJORITY of GT3 owners have had. In terms of the financial risk, the car's resale has been better than ANY Porsche I've owned. That could change, of course, but I see no hard evidence that it will.
08-21-2016, 08:39 PM
#53
Instructor
Thread Starter
08-21-2016, 08:48 PM
#54
Race Director
But since nothing has happened, I reiterate...
991 GT3. Best. Car. Ever.
08-21-2016, 08:59 PM
#55
Nordschleife Master
It's the best car ever, atleast to me.
08-21-2016, 09:27 PM
#56
08-21-2016, 09:42 PM
#57
Nordschleife Master
Very nice review you provided.
Your boss 302 gave me some nostalgia to my old S281SC from 2001. Not built the same but my old mustang days.
You mentioned you guys were keeping pace with the Z06 and vipers, what is your take on the Z?
Again,
My mind was never made on the GT-R... Please see a couple of posts up.
Your boss 302 gave me some nostalgia to my old S281SC from 2001. Not built the same but my old mustang days.
You mentioned you guys were keeping pace with the Z06 and vipers, what is your take on the Z?
Again,
My mind was never made on the GT-R... Please see a couple of posts up.
A Z06 was parked next to my '12 Boss 302 LS (silver and red). The Boss attracted way more attention and admirers than the Z06. I was surprised and intrigued by that and figured it was due to the fact there are usually no less than 2 to 3 Z06's showing up each cruise night. Likely thousands and thousands of Z06s built to date with more slated '17.
Only 1500 Lagunas made and only 133 in silver and red.
08-21-2016, 09:42 PM
#58
08-21-2016, 10:02 PM
#59
Burning Brakes
Keep in mind that your title is "branded" because of a large-scale campaign initiated by the manufacturer that involved 785 cars. Its not a mystery issue that affected one or two vehicles. Personally, I think you made the right choice in selecting the GT3. Its an amazing car. Puts a smile on my face every time I get in it. I would only trade your 3 in on the GTR if you are passionate about owning that vehicle, not because you are scared the bottom will fall out of the GT3 because of the title. Just my 2 cents. Good luck!
08-21-2016, 10:14 PM
#60
Race Director