bronson7

But can we continue this speculation until the day it's announced? That could be a very very long time.

Mika911

No doubt Andreas and his pals are reading these threads and laughing their heads off about all the speculation.

So much can happen in a large organization, that whatever is planned today might be swept off the table tomorrow. But at least there is enough for us enthusiasts to discuss and look forward to.

fxz

So true
and i hope until Frankfurt this wouldn t be the only topic
would be tooo boring either for AP

hfm

There is going to be a 991.2 GT3?

Dan (thinks nothing is confirmed until V210 )

hillsdonsmith

But 991.2 still does not have a Mezger, so I do not see how MT 991.2 will affect desirability of 997 GT cars.

Cheers,
Mark

Zulu Alpha

You speak as though the 9A1 is a 6,500 max rpm turbo lump.?And if you are referring to "heritage," the current RS has a crank derived (same metal) from the 919 Hybrid, so if you want to refer heritage, not a bad start by winning in its second season and Le Mans for the 17th time. Not to mention, Patrick Longs win yesterday with the GT3 R. So don't worry, heritage is coming. Mezger, great engine, served the brand well, and the only way to celebrate it is by replacing it with a worthy successor which the 9A1 is.

EDIT: and by 9A1 I'm referring to MA175 & MA176

fxz

4 sure 991 doesn t have a 996 997 engine
as the latter doesn t have a 993 engine and so forth
no news here

OzStriker

I think there is so much interest here as 991.1 GT3s are destined to be comparatively worthless when the .2 arrives with a manual option and a reliable 4.0 engine. We all know it's going to happen.

ElectricChair

Porsche will never ever produce again a GT3 or RS with manual transmission PERIOD

Sean in Texas

Why does everyone seem to think it will get the 4.0?

The RS needs something to differentiate itself besides just a larger wing, larger wheels, and a transmission.

Say Porsche offers a detuned 4.0 for the GT3. Even THEY know that everyone will just reflash it so that it's at least as powerful as the RS, warranty be damned.

Say they don't detune it. WTH makes the 911R special then? A magnesium roof is worth that kind of premium? Don't think so. And why stab your VIP's in the back within 6 months?

If the .2 goes to $185K they can count me out, I'll just keep my 'worthless' .1

neanicu

You know,that thought has crossed my mind. But being a GT3 with most likely the first and last 9K RPMs engine,it will probably hold a good value regardless of what the 991.2 will be like...

997s07

Personally I hope they keep the 3.8 displacement but make the internals and lubrication system more robust. The HP wars need to stop. There's no sense in diminishing returns high performance competition. Let's get the manual in there and have fun. No need for 9000 RPM, looking at the curve it has got the same HP as the lower part of the semi parabolic power curve.

GT3 customers will come in droves. I already know of at least two who are ready to jump in. Glad I abstained. Rewards coming up.

OzStriker

I disagree, what was the difference between the 997.2 GT3 and RS engines? A different air box and ignition timing? I think that was it.

Drifting

Exactly. Historically the GT3 and RS engines have often had the same displacement.

Porsche will put the 4.0L engine in the .2 GT3, because it's time, and because they've pushed 3.8L beyond the limits of consistent track reliability.

ipse dixit

What point am I trying to make?

Because I am not trying to make any point but to find the answer to my question.

NO agenda here. While I personally have my own preferences towards a PDK, I could hardly care less what others want in a car -- be it a GT or some other Porsche variant.

And, for what it's worth, I knew about what Preuninger said at RRV to select individuals in attendance. But that was nearly 6 months ago.

I am asking now because these articles make it appear that Preuninger said something in the interim, which is why I am asking. And it's for personal reasons unrelated to the whole PDK versus MT debate.

I am going to say it again, and for the last time. My post was written sparsely and carefully so as to avoid any agenda-driven innuendo.

I only asked because I want to see exactly what Preuninger said. Why is that so wrong?

If it is, then I simply do not understand the rules of this forum. And for that, I guess I apologize.